Gary_Fullett joined. Lady_K lol db swetz close near the high indicates buyers won the battle BUT the lower high that stayed below yesterday's range says the buyers are not making much head way so the buying is weak Davidb the men at the old age home get more action then swetz Gary_Fullett correct swetz volume running below yesterday's volume as well Gary_Fullett lol Rix Thx Steve swetz lol Z_Man joined. Gary_Fullett yes Nic joined. Dan joined. Rick joined. Trader_1 joined. Gary_Fullett still weak Davidb yikes swetz David dressed in long trench coat with black socks, a dark hat, and sunglasses hoping to get lucky when he flashes :) greensnap joined. Davidb they always come back for more swetz wears sign that says "out of order" around his neck ;) :) Davidb they test me for free ::sad swetz lol Gary_Fullett 60 min range today said tradng range Gary_Fullett frm the chart i sent swetz have a good day folks, heading to play some tennis and may see you guys tonight swetz take care all :) swetz left. tez left. Gary_Fullett poor swetz Gary_Fullett getting beat in tennis Gary_Fullett poor chap jim sad Davidb lol Davidb i think i upset him with the old age joke jim plays like a girl I heard Davidb lol jil joined. jim no one has guts to tell him Gary_Fullett i know he does got videos jim lmao CMan left. CMan joined. pll joined. Gary_Fullett stia tradign range after weakness themick left. Gary_Fullett so lack of demand will test lower Gary_Fullett but the nas held Gary_Fullett so we may try to break and the rally back tonyw left. Gary_Fullett about a mid range close Gary_Fullett on the es today RB looks like it, BT left. pll left. RB 1084.5 was tuff resistance for today, not sure that means much with lighter volume Gary_Fullett well we knw that the suport was 108350 was support yewterday Gary_Fullett resiistanc etoday Gary_Fullett i thought maybe 1087 on an upthurst Gary_Fullett but also they came from 1070 BillyRayVal Bye All, thanks Gary! BillyRayVal left. Gary_Fullett fast man hokah left. Gary_Fullett okay tem for a break se u all tonight ty Gary_Fullett left. Davidb hagd all Davidb left. JR left. BrianB left. The_Breeze left. jim see you bastards tommorrow jim left. jil left. Q-corner joined. Q-corner left. n left. ian left. mikeyg left. HANDLES left. mark left. Dick left. artvandolay left. greensnap left. brad left. sb2010 joined. KevinA left. Alvin left. Janet left. sb2010 left. RB left. . left. CMan left. . joined. joe_s left. hawk joined. Z_Man left. OM left. Greg left. Ron_N left. newbie left. C left. Trader_1 left. indigo left. Jason left. Pat left. Rick left. Larry left. Nic left. Dan left. rich left. joe_s joined. al left. Mr._November joined. Mr._November left. Ory left. Trader_1 joined. Papa joined. Don joined. Tom_M joined. Bob joined. Frank joined. Paul joined. C joined. J_Chen joined. George_Roberts joined. Ron_N joined. nic joined. Q joined. Zman joined. Mike joined. Eve joined. Pat_ joined. Jason joined. Larry joined. Rick joined. John joined. Greg joined. Hal_C joined. newbie joined. Brian_O joined. hawk left. indigo joined. Doug joined. Mke_Gallager joined. Yorkie joined. OM joined. hokah joined. hokah left. Alvin joined. rich joined. BrianB joined. Ory joined. themick joined. Anna joined. Song joined. Gary_Fullett joined. Gary_Fullett good evening Jon joined. Ory hey Gary skylar joined. Gary_Fullett hey Gary_Fullett tonight are some great charts Gary_Fullett a treat Gary_Fullett because alot of wyckoff principles. Gary_Fullett did u all get the charts Gary_Fullett steve had tennis so i guess wont make it Gary_Fullett he wasnt sure Gary_Fullett ok any questions?> Gary_Fullett am i the only one here lol wyatt joined. Gary_Fullett 53 in the room very quiet mark joined. skylar sorry, Hello all :) Gary_Fullett ok Alex joined. Gary_Fullett you cna sign up for the next 8 webinars Jon Hi Gary...you refering to the charts in the archive for 8/12 Gary_Fullett on sunday and mnday at the sight Ory done thxs Gary_Fullett sign up 1 time and it will aloow u to eb registered for all of them Gary_Fullett we have gotten about 98 to each one roger left. roger joined. Gary_Fullett and i max it out at 100 Gary_Fullett correct jon Jon thanks Gary_Fullett so bar by bar on sunday night Gary_Fullett and trends on Monday Gary_Fullett at 7 pm cst Gary_Fullett both night Dmitry joined. tonyw joined. Gary_Fullett i am also doing a trader guider vsa club volume spread anaysis webinar on monday at 130 pm rich left. Gary_Fullett sinc ei wa spart of a semeinar with them in florida Gary_Fullett ok lets begin Gary_Fullett and q? Gary_Fullett do u all have charts? Song yes skylar got charts Gary_Fullett good Gary_Fullett and no q Gary_Fullett okay Gary_Fullett lets start with theemini sna dp or the es Gary_Fullett what do u see here thats signiicant Gary_Fullett these charts are form te news leeter and it was a great editon last night Gary_Fullett we know we have creek resistance at the high Gary_Fullett at the 1130 area Gary_Fullett we knw that to jump over the creek Gary_Fullett volume shouldincrease on the right side of the trading ranges skylar that last bar , mid range close,... stopping action? Gary_Fullett as speads and d funds are buying Gary_Fullett yes skylar Gary_Fullett so Gary_Fullett we ddint get the volume Gary_Fullett BUT the range were smaller Gary_Fullett and the closes are mid rnage to higher mid range Gary_Fullett so conflicting data Gary_Fullett mid rnage to higher Gary_Fullett is buyers winning Gary_Fullett the small range Gary_Fullett lighter volume says lack of demand Gary_Fullett understand? Song Does the last bar refering today? stopping acition? Gary_Fullett u cna read the comments i sent to subscriber Song could lack of volume also mean no sellers? tez joined. Gary_Fullett the last bar on the chart? Song skylar's question Gary_Fullett was a portion of last nights action Song yes, it is today, I think Gary_Fullett so was not complete Song OK, thanks Gary_Fullett yw ty Gary_Fullett lack of voluem did say lack of sellers Gary_Fullett because the closes were mifd range to higher Gary_Fullett so that is a lack of sellers Gary_Fullett BUT the small range could be a possible alck of demand Gary_Fullett so Gary_Fullett this si why wyckoff Gary_Fullett had proper trades Gary_Fullett to wait for the jump over the creek Gary_Fullett and buy the retest Gary_Fullett that way demand PROVES itself Gary_Fullett at creek nothing is proven Gary_Fullett this si very important Gary_Fullett which is why i said to be patient and to wait Gary_Fullett understand? Gary_Fullett from this chart Brian_O y Gary_Fullett the trened is neautral Gary_Fullett so how do we trade a neutral chart Ory y Gary_Fullett or a tradng range? Jon Buy at support sell at resistance themick sit on our hands? Brian_O sell upthrusts and buy springs Jon if there is a setup Gary_Fullett all correct Ory y Gary_Fullett themick if that isnt your niche to not trade a trading rnage then yes do nothing Gary_Fullett so all correct Gary_Fullett thats what the cm does Gary_Fullett buys support sell resatnce Gary_Fullett defending postions Gary_Fullett at creek and ice Gary_Fullett what are these areas called Gary_Fullett ? Gary_Fullett danger areas Gary_Fullett BUT they are areas that present the least risk Gary_Fullett becasue eithe ru r right Gary_Fullett or u r outquickly Anna they are called risky Biz. Gary_Fullett lol anna Jon yes, tight stos there Anna ::rolleyes Jon stops Gary_Fullett the greatest traders i knwo with wyckoff trade these edges Gary_Fullett why? Gary_Fullett trading range markets are the most commonn activity Jon lowest risk entry thats why Ory y Gary_Fullett so most times tradign these ranegs u wll have a sucess themick 80% of time in a range Gary_Fullett i think thats accurate Gary_Fullett so in the webnrs n mnday i am stressing this Ory or paper trade untill you get comfortable Gary_Fullett i see a few people that are teachign wyckoff going over set up Gary_Fullett but u get much of it for free Gary_Fullett i dont charts for these lectures Gary_Fullett but the newsltter goses deeper as u can see Gary_Fullett goes Gary_Fullett as u cna see.. Jon so 109 now next resitance in SPY and around 106 for support Gary_Fullett i have said that the day after the FOMC meeting si the true market Gary_Fullett after a choppy session the day of the fomc roger charts=charge Dmitry lol roger Gary_Fullett right roger Gary_Fullett no kent here to ehlp roger lol Gary_Fullett help Gary_Fullett so yesterday w ebroke Gary_Fullett what can we say about the action yesterday? Dmitry supply bar Dmitry probably Anna Can I say Supply? Gary_Fullett i thouhgt so intially as well Ory with some volume Gary_Fullett was supply Dmitry but we should look for confirmation by weak rally Gary_Fullett remeber voume is relative to the area it trades in Gary_Fullett here is the million dolla rquestion Gary_Fullett do u knwo the question? Gary_Fullett if so a free commsion Randy supply or shakeout Gary_Fullett for clients Brian_O not sure I'll even know the answer Ory direction Gary_Fullett lol brian Dmitry agree with Randy Gary_Fullett randy on to something Gary_Fullett but something more important Gary_Fullett it has to do with price / and or volume? Randy results vs effort Dmitry downside EOM Gary_Fullett closer.. themick cause and effect? Gary_Fullett im trying to test your knwoldge Dmitry undercut of prior reactio low. So selling wave Gary_Fullett randy is closer Brian_O sot and retest of broken ice from last few days? Gary_Fullett it si a selling range in the trading range Gary_Fullett thas true but not the anser Gary_Fullett ready? Brian_O was I close enough for a free commission? Dmitry lol Anna no give anouther Clue Gary_Fullett ok randy u get 1/2 commisn Dmitry come on ) Randy lol- I'll take it Gary_Fullett it ahs to do with efort vs rewsut Gary_Fullett randy u will get 1/2 Brian_O no follow thru after supply bar Dmitry not so very much effort but big result Gary_Fullett but full if u get the rest Gary_Fullett dmitry very close Gary_Fullett a tad closer than rrandy tonyw Still in the middle of the TR Gary_Fullett think of effort vs result and what that encounters Brian_O God, the suspense! Dmitry ease of downside movement Gary_Fullett PG site lol Randy lack of deman Randy d Gary_Fullett u lost 1/2 commison randy lol Gary_Fullett think effort vs result themick with similiar volume to yesterday would expect lower price Gary_Fullett i am looking for 1 word themick small range themick stuffing Gary_Fullett themick said the word Gary_Fullett wrng way on stuffing rich joined. Dmitry COB Gary_Fullett nope Gary_Fullett i will tell u whe anna says its okay to do so themick bag holding Ory sot Gary_Fullett NO NO NO Gary_Fullett look at the bar Anna go for it. Gary_Fullett think of effort vs result Dmitry poor close Gary_Fullett the micks line Randy huge result with good effort highest vol in area Gary_Fullett after i said effoert vs result Ory wrong chart sorry Gary_Fullett randy now said th word Gary_Fullett okay hint Gary_Fullett only 1/2 cmmish Gary_Fullett the words i am looking for is wither PRICE or VOLUME Randy volume Gary_Fullett YES tonyw Highest volume and widest bar themick expected a bigger change in price based on volume Gary_Fullett that the word Gary_Fullett YES!!!!!!!! Randy volume and result say supply Gary_Fullett the mick ding ding ding Gary_Fullett winner winner chicken dinner themick woooo hhooooo Song but this is not one word, Gary_Fullett i have o get u somethin g snce u arent a client Gary_Fullett VOLUME Gary_Fullett is the wrod i am looking for Gary_Fullett word Gary_Fullett the wide range bar Gary_Fullett the volume didnt equal the price action tonyw Voulme match price action Gary_Fullett look at the br before the wid ebar of yesterday Gary_Fullett the volume was decent Gary_Fullett there was only a slight increase Gary_Fullett on a much large bar Gary_Fullett the next day Song this makes sensense, volume is about 2 m, but down more than 30 points Gary_Fullett the volume should ahve increased more Anna can I call yesterday Preliminary Support ? PS Gary_Fullett though the voluem increased and this wa sa supply bar Gary_Fullett BUT u woud think Gary_Fullett ove r3 millin Gary_Fullett no u cant Gary_Fullett prelimary suport how so? Randy if you compare may and june volume to july and august volume and similar supply bars it looks to me like it would be similar % increase on the supply bars Anna just the first wide range down. Dmitry so what you want to say, Gary? Randy now vs may and june Gary_Fullett pre lim support is at the end of a down move Gary_Fullett before the selling ciamx Gary_Fullett ths is market that just start to possiobly break Randy with the thought of europeans being on vacaiton Gary_Fullett but compare the volume to the area its in Gary_Fullett not in may Gary_Fullett doesnt matter Anna Because its in a Range as well.? Gary_Fullett volume si volume money never sleeps Gary_Fullett if they want tos ell they weill Gary_Fullett I cna show u high voluem during chistamas week Randy that is what I am saying, the percent increase of this bar in its area is similar to the ones in may and june Gary_Fullett wat do we get on the right sid eof a range? Gary_Fullett and u r correct Dmitry SOW Gary_Fullett I amy have mis understood u Randy and the volume then. Gary_Fullett a sign of strngth or a sighn of wekaness Gary_Fullett but if a sow Anna sow Gary_Fullett sign of weankess Gary_Fullett this volume Gary_Fullett should have increased !!!!! Dmitry should have increased slightly more than we see Gary_Fullett do u understand what i am referring too? Gary_Fullett themick i will ahve to get u something Gary_Fullett i think so dmitry themick just keep teaching Gary_Fullett i will :) themick 10 Q Gary_Fullett i have for 15 years 4 times a week Randy ok --you have much more experience than I. Gary_Fullett so look at 1060 Gary_Fullett this is the top of a demand bar Gary_Fullett so important next area Gary_Fullett the reaction high i labld it Gary_Fullett see this? Gary_Fullett so inorder to turn up 1030 muctt be taken out Gary_Fullett and we are still ina range Gary_Fullett trading ranges within rtrading ranges roger 1130 Gary_Fullett yes riger 1130 Danny_T joined. Gary_Fullett tiem for bed lol Gary_Fullett time Gary_Fullett reaction highs Gary_Fullett or reaction lows roger 1hour and 10 min u can Gary_Fullett are good areas to look for trades Gary_Fullett naw thats when i do charts roger ok lol Gary_Fullett 1130 was a reaction high Gary_Fullett we failed Gary_Fullett then 1060 was the reaction high now support Gary_Fullett so now we have to see how we react to ths area Gary_Fullett if a weak rally up light volume and range Gary_Fullett will will get that sign of weakness Gary_Fullett for those who follow tradde guider Gary_Fullett i am using terms u may not be suwed too Gary_Fullett and not ever sellign bar is a sign of weakness Gary_Fullett or a supply bar Gary_Fullett they misuse wyckof temrinolgy to make a point Janet joined. Gary_Fullett they do decent bar by bars Gary_Fullett BUT not wyckoff Gary_Fullett so now that we had a suplly bar Gary_Fullett the buyers must over take that area for mark up Gary_Fullett any q on this Janet left. Janet joined. Gary_Fullett janet stick arounfd lol Dmitry why 1130 reaction high is a DEMAND bar? Janet left. Gary_Fullett it is a reacion bar lower Dmitry volume on that bar not so high. Dmitry May be because this bar EOM Gary_Fullett and we sold off from there Gary_Fullett so imp Jon 505 fib sitting at 1070 Jon 50% Gary_Fullett but the reaction was Gary_Fullett ty jon Dmitry sorry 1060 rection high Dmitry in July Gary_Fullett the next chart si one of My favorites Gary_Fullett the hourly for the es Gary_Fullett it is what institions use Gary_Fullett as many know i look at the hourly joe_s left. Janet joined. Gary_Fullett and especially the first hour Janet left. Janet joined. Gary_Fullett look at the 830 am opening Ory barometer for day so to speak Gary_Fullett yes ory good term Gary_Fullett I may steal it Ory half commision Gary Gary_Fullett ok Dmitry Ory :) Ory of course you can and thxs Gary_Fullett the first hr bar Gary_Fullett was a down bar Gary_Fullett low end close Gary_Fullett volume sim always high the first hr Gary_Fullett it si where epcs and funds make a decsion Gary_Fullett on the news ect Gary_Fullett the next bar? Jon foloow through Gary_Fullett cant beleibve im doingn bar by bar lol Gary_Fullett te next bar Gary_Fullett no follow BUT Gary_Fullett small range Gary_Fullett what does this bar reprsent Gary_Fullett this charts is labled wonderfully Gary_Fullett :)lol Gary_Fullett the small range abr what is this? Jon no interest from buyers Gary_Fullett after a selling bar Ory as always Gary Gary_Fullett is thsk bag holding for higher? Randy lack of selling tez lack of demand themick no themick vol low Gary_Fullett tez is correct Gary_Fullett we already ahd selling Gary_Fullett thas why it is a lack of demand Gary_Fullett small range after supply Gary_Fullett is a alck of demand Gary_Fullett with light volume Gary_Fullett it is NOT stopping action Gary_Fullett but a lack of dmeand Gary_Fullett we do t say a no demand bar Jon consolidate and the low end of the range Gary_Fullett dont say Gary_Fullett next bar what domu see? Gary_Fullett do u see dz joined. Gary_Fullett attempted spring right? Jon break down failure themick test? Gary_Fullett what does this bar say? Gary_Fullett test of? Jon no sellers Gary_Fullett NO NO NO Gary_Fullett sellers are in CONTROL Lady_K left. tonyw potential buyers Jon bubreak out failure though Ory springs fail in a downtrend Gary_Fullett lady k never hears no lol Jon breakout Gary_Fullett right ory Gary_Fullett no tony Gary_Fullett look at the volume Gary_Fullett after selling Ory 2 gold stars tonight Gary_Fullett this si a lack of demand Gary_Fullett becasue u work hard Gary_Fullett its lack of demand Gary_Fullett an attepted sprign ina down move Gary_Fullett wth light volume is BEARISH rich left. Gary_Fullett the next bar Gary_Fullett is the same Danny_T left. Gary_Fullett I know cloes ar ehgh end Gary_Fullett so what Gary_Fullett te opening hourlty bar Jon not understanding why that one bar is bearish? Randy I just cannot wrap my head around lack of selling or demand. seems to me the small range bar is both. Sellers were not wanting to push the market down and buyers were not interested in buying. Gary_Fullett wasnt even retested 1/2 of that bar Gary_Fullett 3 bars Gary_Fullett of lack of upside progress Anna It sayes it has to go Lower to Find Buyers. Gary_Fullett becauase of the backrounfd suppy randy Jon if the sellers were in cntroll on that bar it would have closed on its lows with the attempted break down? Gary_Fullett once u get supply Gary_Fullett u need stopign action Randy selllers obviously were not selling Gary_Fullett does those abrs look like stoping action? Brian_O no Gary_Fullett they don t ave to Gary_Fullett they proved to eb in control randy Gary_Fullett so they dont ahve to prove it Gary_Fullett its the BUYERS that MUST Brian_O but lack of selling can lead to demand Gary_Fullett thats why sopring fail on down trends Jon if we had theis same pattern at the highs it would be a failed breakout on weak volume that is not bullish? Gary_Fullett right brain it can Brian_O but demand must prove itself Gary_Fullett but that AN IF rich joined. Gary_Fullett we only knwo ehat the chart says Randy I understand that they are in control but I dont know how that bar is a lack of selling instead of both lack of selling and demand Gary_Fullett and the chart says until it does stay short Brian_O I liked Anna Brian_O 's comment about needing to go lower to find buyers Gary_Fullett its a alck of demand because BUyers didnt over take sellers Jon but what if the chart attern here was reversed Jon we would not say the bar that tried to breakout on light volume that failed was bullish? Brian_O does that rationale work for you? Gary_Fullett the weak volume on the right side of a range at creek is generlaly bearish . left. Randy ok, I think I might be getting your angle now. Gary_Fullett but there is more to look at jon skylar left. Gary_Fullett correct brian Gary_Fullett needs lowe rto find demand Gary_Fullett wnat does demand look like? Gary_Fullett how many here form vsa? Brian_O wide range high vol Gary_Fullett just type 1? Gary_Fullett right brian Gary_Fullett i want to knw what i ahve to undo lol Dmitry Gary, how often you make overnight postition on ES? Ot it is usuallly daytrades? themick demand is up bars on higher volume Ory am pure Wyckoff Gary_Fullett depends on the action dmitry Brian_O is your appearance w/ Gavin a paid event? lol Gary_Fullett deopends if i can identfy it Dmitry Wyckoff. VSA gone for me after you, Gary! Anna they have a vsa chart reading Master Class 10 hours and dont mention Trading range. Gary_Fullett it may be part of thier club Gary_Fullett but maybe rwriet tjem and ask if u can come for free Jon yeah but that spring bar removed supply Anna Ask Gavin when you see him Gary. Gary_Fullett u r kidding? Gary_Fullett anna Gary_Fullett he is in england Gary_Fullett sprngs only work in an uptrend Gary_Fullett they fail in down trends Gary_Fullett anna are u kidding me? Anna ask any one here that has it. Jon call the bar what u want but i see that bar removing supply Anna Nope lotsa channels Gary_Fullett which bar? Jon the bar u have labeled attemted spring Gary_Fullett if they dont teach u trading ranges Brian_O if demand came in here would you expect a subsequent retest of the demand area before a move higher? Anna No trading range lesson. Gary_Fullett then they have NOP conept of wyckoff i am sorry to say Gary_Fullett tading ranges is the HEART f wyckoff? Gary_Fullett do u know why? tez cause Gary_Fullett thats not wyckoff jon Gary_Fullett rthat soprng doesnt remve suply Brian_O yes, because Gary_Fullett Becasue it is a weka spring attempt Dmitry Because it is area where smart money are busy Gary_Fullett in a down move Jon because that bar made and the subsequent bar made shorts cover and removed some supply Gary_Fullett it is a lack of demand Ory its where a story is beging themick trading ranges heart of wyckoff because that is where the cm is Gary_Fullett becauase trading ranges give u POINT and FIGURE Gary_Fullett give su count Janet trading ranges build cause Brian_O ahh... Gary_Fullett if they dont teach u this its worng to wyckoff Gary_Fullett they teaCH PRICE AND VOLUME Gary_Fullett SO NOT WYCKOFF SO ITS OKAY ON THER BEHALD Gary_Fullett VSA ISNT WYCKOFF Gary_Fullett so Gary_Fullett if tey dont teach trading ranges that fine Gary_Fullett BUT Brian_O I don't believe VSA passes themselves off as purely Wyckoff traders Gary_Fullett it sint wyckoff related Gary_Fullett understand Gary_Fullett NOT a knock to them Gary_Fullett only in the sense of wyckoff Gary_Fullett not wat they do Gary_Fullett the cm is at ice and creek in a range Brian_O I think they only claim to use some of the principles Gary_Fullett thats when they are active Gary_Fullett they will trade the treading ranges Gary_Fullett but mostly ay ice and creek Gary_Fullett right brian Gary_Fullett and it sint a knock about them Brian_O cm=market makers? Jon the attempted spring bar made people go short. if you ut your stop ove the high of that bar when it broke you then had to cove when the next bar took out the high of the spring bar thus removing supply Gary_Fullett ecasue they are wyckoff to a smalll degree Gary_Fullett cm is the " market: Gary_Fullett all thoe mnds not only markt makers Gary_Fullett how can that sprng be a good one Gary_Fullett its a spring in a down maret Gary_Fullett that failed to havr a decent range Gary_Fullett on lght volume Gary_Fullett it si poor quility Gary_Fullett i know brian aabout vsa Gary_Fullett and it is NOT a knock on them Gary_Fullett they teach price and volume Gary_Fullett NOT wyckoff Gary_Fullett so they are fine Brian_O I know you're not knocking them Gary_Fullett heck i am doig a webinar for em lol Gary_Fullett but i know amny are not thinking wyckoff Gary_Fullett and im teaching wyckoff Jon not sure why we all get caught up in the "nams" just technical analysis Gary_Fullett so I am trying to go slow and clear it up Gary_Fullett i dont get cuaght up with laebling Gary_Fullett just the price acion u desribe is worng to wyckoff themick saw part of the webinar at their site Gary_Fullett so what do we knwo about a market that counter trends themick saw you Jon question why bars instead of candles? Gary_Fullett like the last 3 bars Gary_Fullett after supply Gary_Fullett markets counter trned 1 to 3 bars Gary_Fullett maybe 3-5 bars Gary_Fullett so we went sideways to slightly higher for 3 bars Gary_Fullett look at the 4th bar Gary_Fullett wiped out Gary_Fullett the 3 previosu bars Gary_Fullett look at the volume increase Gary_Fullett the second lecture wa svery good the first day which they showed portions of was a poor topic they wnated me to talk on Gary_Fullett candles are for birth days Gary_Fullett wyckoff didnt do canldes Gary_Fullett so i dont Gary_Fullett i only do wyckoff Jon did he have candle concept then? Gary_Fullett so u see that 4th bar Gary_Fullett selling came in Gary_Fullett and the alst bar more mark down Gary_Fullett it is labled for u Gary_Fullett not that i know of Gary_Fullett any q on thsi chart Gary_Fullett TREND is the most imp info u have Brian_O would you have entered a short position on the break of the 60 min OR? Stop above that? Gary_Fullett once u have selling themick that last big bar on low vol, aftermarket? Gary_Fullett demand must ove rtak it Jon i didn't think so he probably would have used them if they were around then Gary_Fullett u can get alck of supply that lead sto demand Gary_Fullett BUT u need DEmand to show Dmitry what does mean over take? Gary_Fullett canldes are arund for hundreds of years Dmitry go above supply bar? Gary_Fullett so he knew Gary_Fullett buying over coming sleling dmitry Gary_Fullett taking out the supply bar with demand Gary_Fullett overtaking Gary_Fullett yes Gary_Fullett yes brian Gary_Fullett I have a persoanl problems with selling wekanes sor breaks Dmitry close above supply bar? Gary_Fullett I am poor at it Gary_Fullett I like to sell a retest if no retest i miss it Gary_Fullett yes dmitry 2 closes Dmitry thanks thanks thanks Gary_Fullett do u undersand the lablling and expamnation? Gary_Fullett welcome welcome welcome Dmitry ;) Dmitry :) Brian_O yes, got to fly, thanks Gary, good stuff once again! Jon selling the retest is the safer entry tonyw Gary, please remind us of potentail stopping actions in a down move besides selling climax. Gary_Fullett ty brian Gary_Fullett yes jon Brian_O left. Gary_Fullett lack of supply tony Gary_Fullett which leads to demand Gary_Fullett that and the selling climax swetz joined. Gary_Fullett hey steve tonyw Thank you, Gary Gary_Fullett any q? Ory hey Steve Gary_Fullett nas- s and p spread swetz howdy Gary and Ory :) Gary_Fullett nasdaq - s and p spread Dmitry hi Steve Gary_Fullett i thnk swetz howdy Dmitry :) roger swetz Gary_Fullett that the nas daq leads the s and p swetz howdy Roger :) Gary_Fullett due to it ebing more specualtive Randy Gary ? Gary_Fullett so when this spread is ullish the sotck market is Gary_Fullett whn bearish Gary_Fullett the market breaks Gary_Fullett the market had its break yesterday Gary_Fullett on aug 11 right? Gary_Fullett the spread broke the trend line Gary_Fullett on august 9th, Gary_Fullett so the spread turned bearish 2 days before the break Randy How do you recognize lack of supply in a downtrend? If low volume narrow range bars are lack of demand? Wide up bar on low volume and that is it? Gary_Fullett spreads tend to lead Gary_Fullett GREAT q Gary_Fullett wide bar on lght volume is one way yes Gary_Fullett let me explain Gary_Fullett but that will be 2.95 Gary_Fullett lol Gary_Fullett so dial 1 900 wyckoff Randy lol roger lol swetz just glad Gary didnt type the 900 number he usually dials :) Gary_Fullett hey i wonder is i can get that nmber Gary_Fullett Kelly Gary_Fullett lol themick lot more thatn 2.95 / min roger lol Gary_Fullett its to a hous ein missippi lol Gary_Fullett streve can u answe randy q? swetz lol Gary_Fullett on lack of demand Gary_Fullett if u rally Gary_Fullett on lght volume in a down trned swetz Randy here is a great link from the SMI/Wyckoff website that does a great job of explaining it imho Gary_Fullett or atrtmewpt too Randy No lack of supply in a downtrend to be potential stopping action Gary_Fullett this is a lack of dmeand Gary_Fullett if was make ne wlows Gary_Fullett with slightly lower lows Gary_Fullett on light voluem Gary_Fullett this cns be a lack of supply swetz http://www.wyckoffstockmarketinstitute.com/wyckoff_articles/Wyckoff_Articles/price_vol_relationships.htm Gary_Fullett so if u grind lowr Gary_Fullett and barely make lower lows Gary_Fullett this can be a lack of supply Gary_Fullett if u try to rally Jon what if you have a narrow bar with high volume in a down tren? lack of supply? Gary_Fullett than a lack of demand swetz Gary has sent this link before but he does a great job of answering your question Randy swetz but it does Gary_Fullett right i have its very imp Gary_Fullett am i right steve? Gary_Fullett probbaly stuffing Randy tu! Gary_Fullett or bag holding swetz agree with that Gary_Fullett we are gettign deepr into it Gary_Fullett i have sent this in newsltter manyb efore u rad em randy Gary_Fullett understand randy Gary_Fullett and all Gary_Fullett attempt to rlaly after supply Gary_Fullett with light volume and small up side Gary_Fullett is a move on lack of dmeand Randy yes stuffing is what I thought on Jons question as well Gary_Fullett grindign lowr Gary_Fullett wth slighly lower lows Gary_Fullett is probably a lack of supply that lead sto a move Ory i asked that q in day clas today Gary_Fullett sit down ory lol swetz Ory - those scoundrels are plagerizing your question :) Ory ooops sorry Gary Gary_Fullett lol Gary_Fullett randy undertnd the differnce Ory thanks Steve Randy yes tu Gary_Fullett do u wnat me to send also the article for the news letter tonight? Randy I understand your angle now, it is clear now that I know your angle Rix left. Gary_Fullett not my angle Gary_Fullett Mr richard d Randy wyckoffs Gary_Fullett :) Gary_Fullett in the forex currecnies Gary_Fullett and futures Gary_Fullett we use the 240 mn chart Gary_Fullett 4 hr chart Gary_Fullett this is a perfect us eof the rtl lines revrse trend lie and channe Gary_Fullett drawn form reacion highs Gary_Fullett gave u te highs Gary_Fullett see this Gary_Fullett steve lost his pay for not lectuering tonight Gary_Fullett too bad in a bad economy Gary_Fullett if u trad ecurencies Dmitry :) Gary_Fullett U must use this tiem frame swetz :( Gary_Fullett AnY Q? Ory i.m good TY Gary_Fullett Boeing Gary_Fullett this is astock i mentioned to sell Gary_Fullett u see a breaking of the ice Gary_Fullett at 70 Gary_Fullett back in may Gary_Fullett look at the retest Gary_Fullett in august Gary_Fullett there is a lack of demand Gary_Fullett at creek Gary_Fullett lack of volume Gary_Fullett at creek Gary_Fullett is a alck of dmeand most times Gary_Fullett which leads to supply Gary_Fullett this is what some aske dbefore Gary_Fullett not sure who Gary_Fullett but her eis an exa,ple toniy Gary_Fullett opposiet of yoru q Gary_Fullett on the upside Gary_Fullett lack of dmeand Gary_Fullett small range lihgter volume Gary_Fullett specs and funds not intersted rich left. Gary_Fullett so the cm sees this and gues what? Gary_Fullett they sell,, Anna Gary, what in % of Traders in the world apply Wycoff ?Please.May-be Steve Knows .Even if its a educated guess.Im curious is all. Gary_Fullett 100 pwrcent of the good traders Anna lol Gary_Fullett every trader know wyckof Gary_Fullett but they dont knw they do Gary_Fullett if they study the tape Gary_Fullett if u stuudy the tape u nwo wyckoff Gary_Fullett im serious Gary_Fullett there a re many ways to make money Randy just UT 1084.5 again in overnight ES trading. Gary_Fullett unfrtuantly Gary_Fullett more ways to lsoe money Gary_Fullett will go to 1090 i believe randy Gary_Fullett but to me traderrs that are tech traders Gary_Fullett all know wyckoff by watchig the tape Gary_Fullett but the dont knwo maybe wyckoff per se Gary_Fullett do u understand what i mean? Anna 10% 20% 50% Jon i agree Anna ? Gary_Fullett i will givevu an example Gary_Fullett look at jon Gary_Fullett he is new here Gary_Fullett yet he knows wyckoff Gary_Fullett and maybe doesn tknwo it Jon 705 of the market iisinsitutional money and 90% of these people trade on fudis not techs. traders trade on technicals like us Jon i70% Gary_Fullett if u are aking how many actually trade wyckoff Gary_Fullett I woud say les than 1 pwercent Anna kinda Randy I agree jon, including the Ed Jones, etc. Anna Curious is all. Gary_Fullett tudor jones/ Gary_Fullett ed jones played football Randy too tall Gary_Fullett yes Jon yes, mutual funds, hedge funds pension funds...this is the money that movs the market and they are buying based on the fundis because that is the only way to put that much money to work you can't be nimble Gary_Fullett so jon u r saying that fndamantla traders make more money then rtech guys/. Jon like moving a battle ship Jon they call mutual funds the dunb money Jon dumb Randy yes, but have not been doing their clients justice for the last 10 yrs Gary_Fullett so if u r fundie trader u r short NOT long stocks Jon there is not right or wrong way about who makes more money using what system there is no holly grail you need to find what works for you personally. for me its technicals analysis Gary_Fullett agree jon great point Gary_Fullett so in boeing Gary_Fullett alck of demand at creek Gary_Fullett lead to selling Gary_Fullett this is a chart Gary_Fullett that I never sent Gary_Fullett the differnc ebetween a shakeout and supply Gary_Fullett via com Gary_Fullett see the lows Gary_Fullett at 30 Gary_Fullett CLASICAL shakeout Gary_Fullett went lower Gary_Fullett back hhger Gary_Fullett and had mark up Gary_Fullett now the may 6th abr Gary_Fullett t ddnt make new hihs quickly Gary_Fullett and formed a tradign range Gary_Fullett shakeouts dont form tradign ranges Gary_Fullett SHAKESOUTS DONT FORM TRADING RANGES Gary_Fullett i menat in bold Gary_Fullett for emphsis Gary_Fullett clear as can be Gary_Fullett the may 6th low in stocks Gary_Fullett was this a shakeout? Dmitry no. no new high. weak reaction. Dmitry suppl Dmitry y Gary_Fullett not in stocks Gary_Fullett thsi wa sselling Gary_Fullett and formign a tradng range Anna mark down Dmitry supply, not shakeout Dmitry hense mark down Dmitry hence Gary_Fullett good Gary_Fullett i kow any think it was a shakeout but i showed u the differnce Gary_Fullett webinar on sunday and monday at 7 pm cst please register on the site for it Gary_Fullett any q? Gary_Fullett Importan rtcharts Gary_Fullett very imp Dmitry THANK YOU, GARY!!!!!! Gary_Fullett ty Gary_Fullett we ha d arecord in the day session Anna Weekly print tomarow Gary. Gary_Fullett we had 89 Gary_Fullett so im glad Gary_Fullett correct anna BrianB thanks Gary Ory TY Gary Jon no matter what system you follow in the end you can have the best skill set in the world and all the hard work but it will be worth nothing if you don't practice good money mgt and trade mgt....that is the key to any system and success as a trader..comes down to discipline remeber this tonyw Thank you very much, Gary Jon thank yoou Gary_Fullett ty jon u r right Gary_Fullett ty u all for making the site great Gary_Fullett i apprecite it Gary_Fullett and yoru time Ory yw Gary_Fullett have a great night themick thanks gary Gary_Fullett ty ty ty Jon left. roger thank u themick left. Gary_Fullett ty the mick Dmitry ::up Gary_Fullett left.