Jerry joined. JimC joined. Peter joined. tom joined. warren joined. hugh joined. noob joined. soilguy joined. handles joined. handles good evening folks soilguy hey big H handles whats happening soil.... soilguy just watching it rain handles did u like the newsletter? Steve_W joined. handles still raining huh Jerry Good evening all handles hi jerry soilguy still raining but better than snow like Gary's getting handles we are getting snow tommorow Jerry Dinner time in California handles night in montreal Jerry Can I ask those who are good at the acronyms to translate them and I'll start a file for a dictionary for those of us who don't know them. Jerry I do have Gary's on line Wyckoff list already. Art joined. pepper joined. handles hey art Art hi everyone Art hi handles ! handles go flames go Jerry Ah Handles...GO SHARKS!!!!! Joe_K joined. handles lol handles sharks are winning so far tonight handles i have the sharks in my pool handles and ottawa handles they are beating pitts now 3-1 biwi joined. handles hi biwi Joe_K 1 they got 1 ? Joe_K :( Jerry We in San Jose are all over the Sharks, espesially my daughter. biwi Hi Handles biwi hi everyone Joe_K Guys we'll kick off in about 10 minutes biwi Joe on time.... serious business Doc_K joined. biwi ::cool Joe_K Will kick off around 9:10-15 biwi ok Joe_K 8:10-15 Central pups Doc_K Hello all JimC Is Amos taking a night off ? Joe_K Cali pups you fig it out biwi hi Doc Joe_K lol biwi lol Jerry My 6 year old grandson is a good hockey player.Granddaughter is pretty good too. She's 5. Joe_K Yes Amos be back next Thur Joe_K Wed Joe_K sorry DaveM joined. biwi Hey Dave Joe_K If you guys have any questions on anything, while we are waiting a few min, toss em out DaveM hi biwi biwi How do we get the weather to stay cold and rainy for the next three weeks Chargerbabe joined. biwi lol JimC left. soilguy buy a farm biwi biwi lol Jerry Hey Shotgun you made it LOL soilguy go in debt up to your ears Lady_K joined. biwi lol Joe_K lol biwi new somebody was listening biwi knew Doc_K sg and biwi had ? on kw w july spread Jerry Be good to Chargerbabe guys, I'm trying to open her eyes to Wyckoff. biwi by the way sg live in the city debt up to ur eyebalss biwi eyeballs Tom. joined. biwi no spread here Doc biwi hi chargerbabe welcome Chargerbabe Hi Jer, yes I made it but Iam having issues with this computer. Iam typing and everything is delayed. So i don't know if what I am typing is messed up or not until it is too late and I have hit enter! handles we see u Jerry You didn't inherit my bad finger Den... LOL biwi we all can't type...but Gary is the best typer in here Chargerbabe I didn't do too bad I see! LOL :-) Chargerbabe Hi biwi~~~ Chargerbabe This delay really SUCKS!!! Your bad finger went to my BAD PUTER! Argh.... Joe_K Gary took typing in school 6 years Jerry LOL John joined. Joe_K :) biwi lol biwi ::rolleyes Joe_K He cant type I cant spell Whit joined. handles so did ss biwi lol Bob joined. Chargerbabe It is like walking in the dark. Joe_K We'll kick off in 5 min Chargerbabe Anywho....Hello Everyone~~~ Joe_K Going to be talking about several things Joe_K Hello CB biwi Doc you play the spreads? Doc_K y biwi Joe's making the moves Jerry Wait until Gay start to type you need a translator. Jerry Gary biwi we have kent and kelly to help biwi lol Doc_K put on kw w @. Doc_K 2.25 to kw today VB joined. Whit left. Chargerbabe left. Chargerbabe joined. Chargerbabe Lets give the desktop a try. Jerry You still keep getting kicked off? handles better? Chargerbabe Ahhhh....much better. Go figure. Al joined. Jerry The other was your laptop? Chargerbabe Time to throw thw laptop in a junk car!!! biwi tonight beans dwn crn dwn go figure biwi wht up Jerry I hope your not still type on the lap top and driving Den. Doc_K settled at 3.75 Chargerbabe No Jer...LOL too late to be on the road. Joe_K Ok, I guess we'll kick off biwi nice Joe_K First off any Q's on anything ? rhonda joined. Jerry Don't be afraid to ask questions Den. Joe_K Any Questions in gen Joe_K Spit em out DaveM n noob left. Joe_K If none we'll get hot handles get hot Chargerbabe JoeK...do I need anything to follow along tonite? Like last night I needed the charts, but didn't have them... biwi we need some heat around here Joe_K No you should be fine Chargerbabe Okey smokey! Joe_K Newer folks should have vocab Joe_K To check loosely Joe_K if terms come up Jerry I emailed last night to you and the URLs as well this morning den. VB left. Joe_K as we go Chargerbabe I got hem Jer. Chargerbabe TY! Joe_K ok Joe_K Going to go into a few aspects of trading Joe_K SU Joe_K Charts Joe_K From lastn night Joe_K Too me self explanitory Joe_K NT saw 4.00 Joe_K Weekly could go 100 plus Joe_K Ok Jerry Earlir Joe I asked those who could translate the acronyms I'd start a file and make a dictionary. Joe_K Moving right along Joe_K lol Joe_K Cool Jerry Chargerbabe the slang dictionary by Jerry! soilguy left. Joe_K Anyone want to comment or talk on SU ? Jerry The Wyckoff acronym users dicionary. LOL biwi one gone soilguy joined. Joe_K Ok Joe_K Then well get into Trading Joe_K itself Joe_K One thing Joe_K Ive seen a ton of lately Joe_K And its sacreligious Joe_K To trading Joe_K Folks climbing into a market Joe_K Then start thinking Joe_K What is UP with THAT ? Joe_K Let me walk into a market then start weighing it up ? Joe_K Guys Joe_K Thats a No No handles jeesh handles i am not calling u anymore handles lol Gary_W joined. Joe_K Its like jumping in the ocean, never swam, then start reading a book on swimming while in the water Joe_K lol Chargerbabe DUH! Jerry No SU listed...anyone on the translation...? handles good point handles SU is a stock on NYSE handles suncor rhonda stock SU Jerry Joe_K Do your Thinking OUTSIDE the box handles oil Joe_K Not IN the box biwi suncor Joe_K When you enter markets your conducting business Jerry Thought it was an acronym, sorry Steve_W SU first2 charts from last night Joe_K Do your business Joe_K and leave Jerry Thanks Steve Joe_K Wanted to talk some on Causeality Joe_K Cause Joe_K assessment Joe_K Sev topics Joe_K We all know Cause verse Effect Joe_K is a principle Joe_K Whats this mean ? Joe_K Hmm all these Wyckoff practioners not 1 know ? Joe_K lol handles cause is a building of a case Doc_K cause building = effect Joe_K So in order to have an effect I need Cause in place first ? rhonda yes handles yes of course Doc_K y handles action.....reaction Chargerbabe Stop doing that Jer. I am getting buggy-ied. LOL Joe_K How does an IPO move without prepitory function ? Jerry ::tongue rhonda news driven handles money handles chasing it handles new money Chargerbabe :-P Joe_K Out the gate no Cause Joe_K How can we have effect handles money chasing a set amount of shares hugh left. Joe_K Ok handles its demand Bob If you want a long list of wyckoff terms. just posted it at joe's site.. couldn't format it like I wanted though Joe_K I'll buy that biwi cross ur fingers Joe_K Point is this Joe_K In a perfect world biwi demand is in inventory Joe Joe_K Cause will in gen equal Effect Joe_K Yes Chargerbabe Do we live in one of those?! Joe_K But you will see many instances biwi if you can't get it likely its in demand price goes up Joe_K Where this principle Joe_K May seem compromized Joe_K I.E. Joe_K Spike Hi Joe_K in NG Joe_K then poof Joe_K Off Jerry Best answer Joe is greed. Joe_K This can be attributed Joe_K best Joe_K to the understanding Joe_K That nt Cause Joe_K Isnt always the animal Joe_K a reaction feeds off Joe_K A market can move 3 years Joe_K 10 years Joe_K Its building Enate Cause Joe_K as it goes Joe_K Sometimes the Cause Joe_K in Accumulation can hit a exact target Joe_K Effect Joe_K Sometimes however Joe_K You may see Spike Joe_K Then no Dist TR Joe_K and market breaks Joe_K You say wheres the Cause to break ? Joe_K That Cause below Joe_K can supply kent joined. Joe_K both functions Joe_K UP and Down handles kent....trading talk with rambo rhonda Kent!!!! Joe_K Give me some examples of Cause handles cotton handles lol biwi wheat kent ok, ty :) Jerry Greeting Kent... Joe_K not markets Joe_K Phase biwi ok handles sideways TR........ kent Rhonda !!! rhonda accumulation Joe_K Great kent hey Jerry Joe_K Accum Joe_K any others ? rhonda reaccumulation Joe_K Y rhonda distrbution and redis Joe_K Very good Joe_K Any more ? rhonda vertical bar? handles absorbtion handles p handles joc and then absorption Joe_K I was looking for Triangular handles ok Joe_K Coil rhonda apex Joe_K You see the reason I mention Cause Joe_K Is it is the KEY to the entire Kingdom Joe_K Any time you see Cause rhonda question? Joe_K Sideways Joe_K Action Joe_K Thats a move Joe_K COMING Joe_K Shoot Rhonda rhonda vertical bat ne building cause because a huge vertical bar tends to end the current move? rhonda bar=bat ne=NT Joe_K Not sure I understand the Q rhonda ok go on then Sorry Joe Joe_K The huge Verticle Bar Joe_K Like in SP500 Joe_K Silver Joe_K Thats a manifestation Joe_K of DaveM gotta get up 330 am for early flight home....need my beauty sleep....see you guys tommorow night...take care Joe_K not building handles clues...... rhonda bye dave Chargerbabe Good night Dave M. Joe_K Anyone lost ? Joe_K So far ? Joe_K When you see huge Bars rhonda ah i see good point Jerry Have a good one Dave. Joe_K DOWN or UP Joe_K lots of ground Joe_K covered Joe_K short amount of time Joe_K Thats manifesting Joe_K Cause Joe_K Not building Joe_K Building is the Beaver analogy Chargerbabe Me Joe...but I am a rookie in here. I am following as best as I can. I won't hold anyone up. Joe_K CM's build TR's Joe_K Ok CM's Joe_K Are folks in the know Joe_K with the dough Joe_K THEY are the market Joe_K Any time you see CAUSE Joe_K Sideways action Joe_K Thats CM Joe_K 1st Siting Joe_K Mark it down Joe_K He has been sited rhonda CM=composite man Joe_K How do we know Joe_K Easy Joe_K He buys Los Chargerbabe market makers...options specialists, etc Joe_K Sells His Joe_K Keeps a market in a TR Chargerbabe the ones with the hammer. Joe_K Some of you rem these Joe_K things Joe_K from Sat Joe_K The Dolphin Joe_K analogy Joe_K Dolphins hunt Joe_K create a fish ball Joe_K They surround it Joe_K take turns going in Joe_K feeding Joe_K Others on Outside Joe_K Keep the Ball Joe_K in shape Joe_K Dont let the little fish get away Joe_K go crazy Joe_K This is Coarraling Joe_K Coral Joe_K Shepards to a herd Joe_K They NEED you Joe_K You take opposite side Joe_K Orders Joe_K So Joe_K Lets say 100 Joe_K is Support Joe_K This is called ICE Joe_K 300 is Creek Joe_K This is Resistance Joe_K Say you trade 100-300 for 1.5 years Joe_K never breakout Joe_K That is a cM Joe_K Accumulating Joe_K positions Joe_K They Scale IN Joe_K and OUT Joe_K Market gets up close to 300 Joe_K They sell more Joe_K Gets down close to 100 Joe_K They buy more Joe_K They keep the Cattle Joe_K in the fences Chargerbabe Is that like channeling Joe? Joe_K Tracking ? Joe_K Yes Joe_K similar Chargerbabe ok Joe_K Whenever you see Sideways Joe_K CAUSE Joe_K Thats the KEY DaveM have fun guys... Joe_K Especially DaveM left. Joe_K at Historic Lo's Joe_K You are Rich Joe_K Automatic ass kicking trade Joe_K Right there Joe_K No brainer Joe_K Why ? Al can only go to 0 less risk Joe_K Excellent Joe_K Read that again Joe_K The closer you are to 0 Joe_K and see these Cattle coraling ranges Joe_K You know Joe_K Accumulation Joe_K They are GATHERING Joe_K Shares Joe_K Not gathering shares and wasting time keeping you and them in check to go to zero Joe_K ok ? handles yup Joe_K Common sense handles amazing Joe_K I.E. 10 Crude Joe_K 400 Beans Joe_K 100 Oats Joe_K 175 Corn handles anything like that out here now? Joe_K These are Position Traders DREAM Joe_K Now in 99 Joe_K I was a Pup Joe_K I didnt know Joe_K Values Joe_K Now I do Joe_K There are always potential huge moves Joe_K But these pat joined. Joe_K Are the EASY Joe_K ones Joe_K and I hate that word Joe_K I want newer folks to see biwi simple trades Joe_K That sideways at historic lo's is $$$$$ Joe_K At the Hi's Joe_K Its harder Joe_K No 0 behind you Joe_K 0 is a shield Joe_K Ok ? biwi y Chargerbabe At the highs you have too far to fall! Jerry Yep Joe_K Or too much too lose going higher Chargerbabe The worst part is the sudden stop at the bottom! Joe_K Like all time new Hi's Joe_K At the Lo's Joe_K Say they take you out Joe_K at .20 Joe_K Ok, I sell my house Joe_K and get back in Joe_K lol Joe_K Different game biwi lol Tom. left. Joe_K They want 0 Joe_K I dont think so Jerry Now living under thebridge Joe? Joe_K lol Joe_K OK Joe_K Lets move on Chargerbabe lol Joe_K to a few other things Joe_K Any Questions ? Chargerbabe cardbaord got wet. Joe_K so far Jerry LOL rhonda no q's Joe_K Ok Chargerbabe continue Joe Chargerbabe doing good. Joe_K Wanted to talk a little on a few things Joe_K That can touch a diversified crowd Joe_K and keep the newer guys envolved too Joe_K Wanted to talk on Defining Joe_K Defining what Joe_K What type Trader you are Joe_K Many folks try the shoe salesman approach Joe_K Mix and match Joe_K Styles Joe_K and try to trade something Joe_K a certain way Joe_K Without knowing Joe_K Their style Joe_K or approach Joe_K This is where Joe_K You can lose Joe_K a lot of $ Chargerbabe Been there done that! Alvin joined. Joe_K All traders fall into 3 main styles Joe_K Position Joe_K Swing Joe_K Day Joe_K Position is Long Pull Jerry Jow saw my 1040... LOL Jerry Joe Joe_K or Campaign Joe_K Most I see Joe_K are Swing Chargerbabe lol Joe_K They are not loyal Joe_K They are Jackles Joe_K You go for hits Joe_K Not marrying anything Joe_K A few are Position Joe_K Or Own product Joe_K physical Joe_K Some own crops Joe_K some Cattle Joe_K Their Cash Joe_K is in the field Joe_K Thats how Futures Joe_K were invented Joe_K as a Hedge Joe_K For Farmers Joe_K ect Joe_K Say Corn goes to 340 Joe_K Im a farmer Joe_K I let go of some Joe_K Sell my corn Joe_K to Lock in Joe_K on that 340 Joe_K price Joe_K I dont want to sell it all Joe_K May see 440 Joe_K So I have to guess Joe_K too Joe_K As best I can Joe_K Jerry ? Jerry Wish in one hand spit in the othe... whatcha got. spit Joe_K lol Chargerbabe lol Joe_K Ok Joe_K Most of you Joe_K Speculate Joe_K And most Joe_K Dont own product Joe_K Now think of these Joe_K things Joe_K You want a perfect business Joe_K No over head Joe_K No employees Joe_K No costs Chargerbabe AMen@! Joe_K But Quotes Joe_K service Joe_K a desk Joe_K and a pen Joe_K phone Joe_K Wow Joe_K Sounds good Jerry Joe saw your business Den....LOL Joe_K Now how about a business Chargerbabe LOL Jer! Joe_K That you start off at 50/50 Joe_K 50% Joe_K Automatically Right Joe_K No matter what Joe_K Not bad biwi sounds easy lol Joe_K Toss in modern era Joe_K You have Computer Joe_K Hmm Joe_K You can access thousands Joe_K of pieces of info Joe_K in minutes Joe_K Unlike guys in 1800 Joe_K 1880 Joe_K 1900 Joe_K 1910 Joe_K 1920 Chargerbabe 1980! Joe_K 1950 Joe_K Yep Joe_K Now please Joe_K Explain to me how 95% of folks still are Losing ? Joe_K lol Jerry Tell Me I did just that... Joe_K Your at 50% without a drop of Effort Joe_K Training Joe_K Anything Joe_K Your half right OUT every GATE Joe_K No matter what Joe_K It can go UP or Down Joe_K Right or Wrong Chargerbabe right Joe_K How come everyone 95% still lose ? Al money mangement Joe_K 5 % win Joe_K Yep Joe_K Money Management Chargerbabe lack of knowledge! Joe_K yep Jerry We dig a foxhole and wait for the charge that never comes. Joe_K What else Chargerbabe lol Joe_K Common Joe_K Give it too me Al ego Joe_K Sell me on LOSING Chargerbabe we wanted it yesterday Alvin trading on emotions Joe_K baby Joe_K lol biwi trade NG Joe_K Yeah Joe_K Emotions Joe_K MM Joe_K Anything else ? Joe_K Ignorance ? biwi yes biwi cm Joe_K I guess lack of knowledge Joe_K Point is this biwi lack of patience Joe_K As a Trader Alvin trade fo skill not money biwi y Alvin money leads to greed Joe_K You have a beginning Joe_K Ok Chargerbabe the love of $$ is greed Alvin, Joe_K Your going to have to gain knowledge , and experience, in order to create Wisdom biwi what did you say i have a carrot in my ear Joe_K Wisdom cures Emotion Chargerbabe lol biwi we don't listen we think we know Joe_K With Wisdom comes lack of fear Joe_K and beginning respect Joe_K Fear = Respect Chargerbabe remove the emotion and learn patience Joe_K Through Wisdom Alvin Patience is my downfall swetz joined. Joe_K The killer ones Joe_K Patience Jerry Is that a dimond Biwi? Joe_K Fear Joe_K Greed Joe_K Ignorance Chargerbabe lol swetz ::ninja ::smile Alvin hey Swetz have Patience! biwi what did you say biwi lol Jerry Hey Swetz I'm working on it. Joe_K These are all products of little knowledge and great fear Joe_K The more you know the less you fear biwi like closing your eyes and buying crn swetz lol Alvin swetz cool Jerry Alvin :) biwi in a demand market and it drops on you Joe_K If your approach to a trade is SOUND Joe_K and LOGICAL Joe_K How do you have FEAR ? Joe_K You DONT Joe_K So any Fear Joe_K Is a product Joe_K of ignorance Chargerbabe unless you are emotional Joe_K Nope Alvin understanding what is real and what is not Joe_K Your emotion Joe_K Is created Joe_K by fear Joe_K lack of understanding Joe_K Dont know the unknown Chargerbabe No...if you are emotionalabout trading then you have a great fear of the unknown Joe_K Yes Joe_K With Knowledge and Experience, you create Wisdom Chargerbabe it needs to be like water off a ducks back. Joe_K With Wisdom you stomp out Fear Joe_K Wisdom is your Trump Card Joe_K Trumps ALL Chargerbabe you gain wisdom by learning! Joe_K Very good Joe_K Excellent Joe_K Traders are also Joe_K People Joe_K Humans are creatures of what ? Jerry Habit Chargerbabe habit Joe_K YES handles habit Joe_K That includes the B word biwi dang Joe_K Bad Habits Joe_K The Guesser Joe_K The Gambler handles smoker Joe_K The I think I can wing it biwi lol Joe_K Let me get in there Chargerbabe lol Handles Jerry Stay out of smokers Handles...LOL Joe_K I hope the report is good pat There is another scenerio Joe-- and I am proof--I am not afraid--not because I am wise but because I am too dumb to be afraid Joe_K Dopes Hope Chargerbabe LOL handles lol Joe_K Everyone hates to lose money handles good one pat biwi lol Joe_K Ok Joe_K But what Im getting at is this biwi members only club Joe_K You are special people Joe_K You are a diff breed Joe_K So you have to develope strengths Joe_K in certain areas Joe_K And You cant just guess em Joe_K You must KNOW biwi very true biwi preserve and protect Joe_K A guesser will hand over money EVERY time Jerry How can I develope the KNOW, Joe? Joe_K You aint beating an institution as old as prostitution Joe_K Without KNOW how Joe_K Getting there Joe_K Jerry Joe_K You have 1 thing that tears you down Joe_K Sets you appart Joe_K From CM Joe_K Somthing he does Jerry I do the home work study the techs and the charts, looks good... still get skunked. Joe_K You dont handles time Art become a prostitute? handles frame Chargerbabe lol Art lol handles cm has lots of time Chargerbabe good money in that? Chargerbabe lol handles very Jerry LOL Art, I'll try that. Joe_K Nope Joe_K Organization Chargerbabe At your age Jer?! Joe_K You know why they win ? Joe_K Organized Jerry There are kinky people out there. You remember those you keeped on the inside... LOL Joe_K I can tell you how to beat them Joe_K Easy Chargerbabe If one wants to be good at something you have to be dedicated to it! Joe_K Let them do the work Joe_K You ride Chargerbabe ride the wave Joe_K What was opening topic ? Joe_K CAUSE Chargerbabe and effect Joe_K You want the Effect Joe_K of success Joe_K Let them build the Cause Joe_K You ride Joe_K The effect Joe_K Let them work for you Joe_K The Flea Joe_K Conquers Joe_K Dog cant reach that pesky fle on his back Joe_K flea Joe_K We complicate this Joe_K Principle Joe_K We complicate this Concept Joe_K WHY Joe_K WHY Joe_K WHY Jerry Confusion? Chargerbabe lack of knowledge Joe_K Buy Strength Demand from Support Sell Weakness Supply from Resistance Jerry and not knowing true direction. Joe_K How hard is that Joe_K ???? Joe_K 100 is ICE Joe_K Buy 103 Joe_K stop 94.5 Joe_K What is so hard Joe_K Res 110 Joe_K I buy 109 ? Joe_K Do I buy 109 ???? Alvin never Jerry Your stop out is 5.5% Joe? Joe_K TY Joe_K No Joe_K Listen Joe_K We deal in probabilities Joe_K Right ? Jerry Yep Joe_K We never Know 100% Chargerbabe y Joe_K Ok Joe_K So Joe_K Lets say Joe_K we follow a model Joe_K That we understand Joe_K We WILL take hits on Joe_K and We know Joe_K We can Control Joe_K Those Hits Joe_K How the heck can you lose being right 50% out the gate, and having power to know WHERE to enter Joe_K When Joe_K How much to risk Kelley joined. Joe_K and when and where to get out Joe_K HOW Jerry Techs Joe_K At what point does that CHANGE ? Joe_K I can hit 6-7 out of 10 Joe_K Win Jerry Volume decline or increases Joe_K I can hit 2 out of 10 WIN Joe_K You understand ? biwi y Joe_K What is the most important component to Wyckoff ? Chargerbabe ? handles money management Joe_K NO Jerry True Joe_K YOU Joe_K YOU ARE handles right Joe_K YOU are in CONTROL Joe_K HERE Jerry Got cha Joe_K NOBODy ELSE kent hey Kelley Joe_K NONE Joe_K You have all the Power Joe_K In the world rhonda Hi Kelley!! Joe_K You can say no trade Jerry Richard D. Wyckoff Den. Kelley hi Kent, congratulations on the graduation Joe_K You can say trade Joe_K You can say how much Joe_K how little Joe_K When Joe_K Where Chargerbabe Yes Jer, I did get that part! LOL Joe_K Why Kelley hi Rhonda:) Chargerbabe Not asleep yet. close though Joe_K So where do traders forget these things ? handles in the heat of the moment Joe_K YES handles mkts moving....let me in Joe_K on a whim handles now Jerry But, you are learning Den..LOL handles its gonna run handles lol kent lol ty Kelley Joe_K YES biwi ::beer kelly Joe_K By doing silly things Chargerbabe brain overload! Joe_K Now let me try this another way Chargerbabe lol biwi Kelley hi biwi::beer::blink Joe_K You have to understand Joe_K Vegas Chargerbabe see ya handles Joe_K is open Joe_K 24 hours Joe_K Right ? Jerry ::beer ::beer ::punk handles yup Chargerbabe y handles cmon guys Joe_K If you know there are 1000 ways Joe_K to turn a buck Joe_K a thousand moves Joe_K a month Joe_K ect Joe_K Why you worried about 1 stinking ass Bus Joe_K you might miss Jerry 8,000 plus to be exact Joe_K Ya got a pot of Gold Kelley topic please Joe_K Everywhere handles cause and effect handles kelley Kelley ty sir Joe_K You dont need to play German Willy Wonka boy Joe_K Ok ? handles y Joe_K Jeesh Joe_K Put this IN Joe_K Perspective Joe_K 1 little Sugar Joe_K contact Joe_K Pays 5000 Joe_K in 100 pt move Joe_K actually more Joe_K 11.20 Joe_K a pt Joe_K 1 market Joe_K 1 bus Joe_K I MISS IT IM melting !!!! HELP HELP IM DYING Joe_K ???????? kent lol Kelley wounded duck syndrome Joe_K 1 ES trade for 10 handles is $500 Chargerbabe the wicked witch! Jerry Drama Class LOL Joe_K You mean I can trade Whichever One I want ? Joe_K At any time ? Joe_K I can even not trade ? Kelley "help me help me, i think I hurt my wing" Chargerbabe yu're the one in control Joe_K You serious ? Joe_K I can wait ? Joe_K WOW Joe_K Reality Joe_K What a concept Joe_K 300 moves Joe_K 2000 Joe_K moves Joe_K going on John left. Joe_K And ya cant find 1 market with good support to buy and good res to sell ? Joe_K With small risk Joe_K ???? Joe_K LOL Joe_K Try to learn this Joe_K RELAX Joe_K Say it for me please Joe_K RELAX Chargerbabe relax Steve_W Relax Chargerbabe it Kelley chill rhonda retest retest retest rhonda relax Joe_K Guys Jerry reLAX, ys i seeit... now I feel.... Joe_K You are in a great great big old Candy shop Joe_K You have all the TIME you want Chargerbabe how the heck do you relax in there! biwi relax don't do it Joe_K No set hours Chargerbabe sugar high Joe_K You dont have to answer to anyone Joe_K But YOU Joe_K Your Broker TAKES orders he doesnt give them Jerry Then I come in shouting "SHOW ME THE MONEY.".... LOL Joe_K Relax Chargerbabe lol rhonda lol Joe_K Think about it Joe_K 50% Joe_K Right Joe_K Just out the gate Joe_K No work Joe_K NONE Joe_K What about if Joe_K I add some work Joe_K and patience Joe_K Can I hit 55% Joe_K Yeah Joe_K What about 8 hours of good work, and patience Joe_K Can I hit 70% Joe_K Yeah Chargerbabe everything takes effort. If you don't work for it, it certainly isn't going to fall in your lap! Joe_K You CAN Joe_K The prob is this Joe_K Traders LOVE one thing Joe_K $$$$ Joe_K They LOVE IT Joe_K They Go Ape Shit over it Joe_K They want to bath in it Joe_K Bask in it Chargerbabe lol Joe_K They DO Joe_K We LOVE MONEY Jerry I'm Scrooge McDuck Joe... what can I say. Joe_K Face it Chargerbabe obsessive, aren't we?! Joe_K So Joe_K In order to Love it Joe_K We have to learn to RESPECT it Joe_K You wont respect a whore Joe_K You'll respect your Mother Joe_K That money is your Mother Chargerbabe common sense and respect are foreign words in todays society Joe_K They cant be to trading Joe_K You have to draw lines Joe_K THIS is THIS Joe_K THAT is THAT Joe_K Rules Joe_K LAW Chargerbabe people need to learn both in order to be sucessful in all! Joe_K If you dont establish Order Joe_K You sink Joe_K You get ripped up Joe_K Torn appart Chargerbabe you get broke! Joe_K Very quickley Jerry In short don't scuddle your ship.. Joe_K Now that all sounds good Joe_K Right Joe_K Great speech Chargerbabe y Joe_K Yee haw Joe_K But tom Joe Im back in the battle Joe_K Ok Joe_K Your a General Jerry I give you a hoo wa Joe... Joe_K Your in charge Joe_K Act like it Joe_K Your responsible Joe_K Nobody else Joe_K Nobody cares Joe_K Everyone is your friend Joe_K Until the RENT is do Joe_K And thats on YOU Chargerbabe especially when you are in the green. Joe_K We care here Joe_K Many of us do Joe_K I do handles yes we do Joe_K 1000 % handles u do Joe_K I know how many ass woopens I took Joe_K to get to where Im at Joe_K I know how hard Joe_K it can be Joe_K and I been on the mat biwi 1000% Joe_K 3 times Joe_K on my knees Joe_K broke Joe_K and guess what Joe_K I'm still here Jerry under a bridge when you sold the house. Joe_K Aint beat me Joe_K Ya got to be a fighter Alvin THats us Joe Chargerbabe pick yourself up , dust yourself off and do it all over again! Joe_K You will experience more things in trading Joe_K Than you ever knew Joe_K Some folks Joe_K Think Joe_K a Man can hurt you Joe_K A Woman can hurt you worse than any man Joe_K trust me Chargerbabe HEY!!!! Chargerbabe LOL Joe_K That is Trading Joe_K Its the Mental Joe_K Anguish Joe_K You must overcome handles any setups....i wanna buy and make $$$$ now? Joe_K Through Order handles lol Joe_K LOL Joe_K ass handles hahaha biwi lmao Jerry Been there done that woman thing Den... ::wacko Joe_K Now Chargerbabe is that a stock?! Chargerbabe lol Joe_K lol Joe_K Listen Joe_K Speeches are fun biwi lmfao Joe_K and good biwi better one Chargerbabe Been there done the man thing Jer! Joe_K and all sounds grand Joe_K But I will tell you this Joe_K In this Room Joe_K With myself, Gary, Amos, David, many of you Joe_K We are serious Jerry Amen Den. Joe_K We dont play Joe_K THis is THIS Chargerbabe that is that Joe_K You guys CAN kick ass Joe_K Just Relax Joe_K Gold everywhere Joe_K Take time Joe_K Pick one Joe_K Home in Joe_K and do the job Joe_K Dont try to think about 1,000 Joe_K at once Joe_K think about a good set up Joe_K a good plan Joe_K on 1 Joe_K No half ass shit Joe_K Hey Wheats UP FROST, Lets get IN NOW Joe_K lol Joe_K Relax Chargerbabe no guns half cocked her...right Jer? Joe_K You can be half cocked Joe_K Ready Jerry Yep, keep the safety on but loaded. Chargerbabe Aim Joe_K But dont take shots so easy Joe_K Make Bullets count Joe_K I can take 5 losses Joe_K and make it back on 1 trade Joe_K I cant take 1K hits Joe_K 5 times Joe_K and make it back Joe_K as easy Joe_K Can I ? Jerry Nope biwi lol Joe_K You have to take your set ups Joe_K Yes Joe_K But place good sound stops Joe_K and if they get you Joe_K OK Joe_K Its gonna happen Joe_K We win on AVERAGE Joe_K Not 6 wins 1 loss Joe_K We win on monetary Joe_K average Joe_K Keep your Hits Small Joe_K ALL of em Joe_K ALL of em Joe_K The Big Hits are killers Joe_K I know Joe_K Trust me Joe_K Nobody has done anything more stupider than I Joe_K thriough the years Joe_K Is stupider a word ? Joe_K lol Chargerbabe lol handles i gotta run....thanks Joe...as usual....... Jerry I'll bet I did Joe... Chargerbabe is now! Joe_K ok Bro handles great class Chargerbabe Add thst to the dict Jer biwi lol Joe_K Comments ? biwi good stuff biwi q? Joe_K Sorry I rambled Joe_K Shoot pat thanks for the moral support Joe:) handles great stuff Chargerbabe you had th soap box Joe Al Great Joe, Thanks Again!! Alvin any tips for newbies trading ES? Joe_K Yeah Jerry Good info Joe, Just wish I had it before my big loss. Joe_K tons biwi had do we get our pivot once we break out of our TR Joe_K You go sub pivots Joe_K You know how your fingers have those little lines ? handles left. Joe_K segmented ? Alvin yeah biwi ok Joe_K Thats how you divide a TR Jerry Fironachis Joe_K Walk the Dog Joe_K Up biwi so we use different colour Joe_K and Down Joe_K Like ES Joe_K ok Joe_K Example biwi use crn biwi 392 pivot Joe_K 1470-1461-1459-1453-1448-44-38-33-28-26-20-18-12-10-05-1400-1395 Joe_K Notice your points Alvin by pivots you refer to creek and ice? Joe_K Then divide Joe_K Group biwi ok Joe_K Take Ice Joe_K and Creek Joe_K Draw em Joe_K strainght across Joe_K Then Joe_K Look between Joe_K the lines Joe_K hot pockets Joe_K areas of Hi traffic Joe_K You see these Joe_K by cycling Joe_K 60 min Joe_K 5 min Joe_K 10 min Joe_K 30 min Joe_K Day Joe_K back to 60 min Joe_K The hourly Joe_K will show more Joe_K traffic Joe_K Than you just looking at a Daily Joe_K You may see 1 Bar Joe_K Daily Joe_K Houly like 8 Joe_K Bars Joe_K Ok Joe_K Go to 5 min Joe_K Bars Joe_K Youll see the Traffic biwi cool Alvin cool Joe_K the trades Joe_K 44, 44.25 44.5..44...44.75..44.25 Joe_K over and over Chargerbabe the intraday moves Joe_K The more you trade certain areas Joe_K The more popular thems be Joe_K They create Joe_K Ice Joe_K Creek Joe_K on Junior levels Joe_K naked to a Day Bar Joe_K You cant see all that Joe_K on 1 Day bar biwi so we can trade sub tr Joe_K YES Joe_K Like in Corn Joe_K I know you watch Joe_K Corn Joe_K Whats a good area we broke from biwi 358.75 now lol Joe_K a definative zone Joe_K Up stairs Joe_K What was Creek biwi 392 Joe_K Ice Joe_K YES Kelley 388-92 biwi 344 Joe_K YES Joe_K OK Joe_K So Joe_K You take a start Joe_K 393 Doc_K left. Joe_K 388 Joe_K then what ? biwi watch Jerry 390 Joe_K More numbers biwi yep Joe_K 393-390-388 biwi watch more Chargerbabe I'm turning into a pumpkin guys! Bed time...late here. See you tomorrow eve. Joe_K 384 biwi sell it Jerry Off like a prom dress Den? biwi put a stop 394 Joe_K NO Chargerbabe you got it Jer!! LOL Joe_K 396 1/4 Lady_K left. Joe_K lol biwi lol Jerry I'll email you tomorrow. Joe_K pat it Chargerbabe you like that saying don't you? biwi ok Chargerbabe OK...Good night all! Joe_K Off like a prom dress ? Joe_K LOL Jerry You made a good saying. biwi 350 Chargerbabe good one huh Joe? Kelley gn CB biwi gn biwi cb Chargerbabe I'm off...like a prom dress! biwi 370 biwi 360 Joe_K Where is last Broken ICE biwi 358 Chargerbabe left. Jerry Chargerbabe sign off on a quick email. Joe_K above you Joe_K at 358 biwi y Joe_K NO Joe_K Im asking biwi 344 Art thks Joe , see you all tomorrow Joe_K Where is Broken Ice directly above 358 Art left. warren left. Jerry 373 biwi ice is support correct Joe_K lil lower kent left. Joe_K 364 Joe_K see it ? Joe_K Pull up 60 min Joe_K Look at that sideways Joe_K 364 Joe_K area Joe_K Your looking for price band Joe_K Average of His or Los Joe_K directly above Joe_K or below you Joe_K You have 60 min ? Joe_K See that first break 360 3/4 Joe_K then sideways biwi y Joe_K :) Joe_K You saw a pop Joe_K UP Joe_K then Joe_K and Joe_K a Pop down biwi that was a sub ice Joe_K Look at pop down LO Joe_K 363 1/2 Joe_K 364 1/2 Joe_K rather Joe_K That abrubt BAR lo Joe_K Stopped 364 1/2 Joe_K Why Jerry volume Joe_K Why sideways traffic around there too Joe_K Thats a hot spot Joe_K You go into 60 min bars Joe_K Youll see em Joe_K Sideways areas Joe_K Look at the Lo's Joe_K Bands of prices Joe_K Get an average Joe_K Say 63-65 Joe_K or 64 Joe_K Next up 69 Joe_K Bar stoppage in there Joe_K Then you just walk the dog Joe_K UP Joe_K and Down Joe_K marking these Joe_K areas Joe_K Withing 92 Joe_K to 44 biwi as we speak Joe_K ? biwi your marking them Joe_K Sure Joe_K Once they trade averages Joe_K and it stands out Joe_K Mark it Joe_K That sideways at 64 1/2 Joe_K and your at 58 Joe_K 57 Joe_K Means this Joe_K You rally back above that sideways Joe_K 64 Joe_K and take it Joe_K We can see 69 Joe_K then Joe_K If you cant take 64 Joe_K Its creek Joe_K and if we break lower Joe_K Creek gets stronger Joe_K Because they will sell more weakness Joe_K If they sense it Joe_K Here shes been trying to fight Joe_K So they prob aint crazy bearish Joe_K Shes more drifting on her own weight Joe_K They knew frost Joe_K Little jittery Joe_K But calmer Joe_K Looking out now a tad Joe_K collecting their thoughts Joe_K While they do Joe_K that Joe_K They may take a few inches more Joe_K and see Joe_K then 3 cents more Joe_K and see Joe_K Walking the dog Joe_K down here Joe_K They knew at 92 Joe_K They could break 20 Joe_K at will Joe_K Now they are thinking Joe_K more Joe_K than just blind pounding swetz man, I come back and I hear Joe talking about walking dogs Joe_K understand ? swetz ::smile biwi y Joe_K lol Joe_K These 60 min bars Joe_K are good Kelley y, I think so Joe_K I love 1-3-5-10-30 biwi leash is support Joe_K Cause I trade ES Joe_K Most my trades Joe_K In ES Kelley hi Swetz Joe_K are risking 150 to 275 Joe_K So I use the smaller bars Joe_K For milk entries Joe_K and exits Joe_K If I see target 1447 Joe_K Im short Joe_K 56 Joe_K Im taking 48.25 Joe_K to avoid bs Joe_K traffic Joe_K They can keep the change Joe_K for a tip Joe_K Always pat your stuff Joe_K alow your exit Joe_K avoid traffic Joe_K Place stops in grains at 1/4 Alvin traffic means more lines of congestion? Joe_K intervals Joe_K Not round numbers Joe_K If you want out of Corn short at 58 Joe_K Take 58 1/2 Joe_K 58 3/4 Joe_K 59 1/4 Joe_K Dont be greedy biwi truth Joe_K Rem Joe_K Everyone else Joe_K Is seeing Mr 58 Joe_K too Joe_K Especially Tech pups Joe_K Theyre all over it Joe_K around it Joe_K You Get YOURS first Joe_K Then think about another raid Joe_K on the House biwi $12.50 difference lol Joe_K That 1 tick Joe_K Can mean 500 biwi 50 Joe_K lol Joe_K Can mean missing Joe_K $500 Joe_K too Joe_K lol biwi yep Steve_W left. Joe_K Yes Alvin biwi scalp master Joe_K More congestion Joe_K More Traffic Joe_K Means Joe_K More Orders Joe_K around that zone Joe_K Which means Joe_K They are Defending it Joe_K and or Leaving it Joe_K THERE Alvin ok Joe_K If market is weak Joe_K You break more Joe_K They are Defending it Joe_K If you Spring Joe_K They are not Joe_K So that traffic Joe_K becomes ice Joe_K then Joe_K Great Joe_K We love Ice Joe_K We can stand on it Joe_K right ? Jerry Yep Alvin yeah Joe_K Use it as shield for stops Joe_K Hide behind it Bob wow.. I'm burnt out and joe is on a roll Joe_K lol biwi lol Alvin lol Joe_K Got some traders here Joe_K I like that Bob well, you can count me out on that Joe_K Means your heart is Trading Joe_K :) Alvin good stuff biwi so your bible is your chart Joe_K Im so backed up biwi lol Alvin stay out of traffice Joe_K Or Id post more charts Jerry Hate weekend holidays no market. Joe_K to Forum Joe_K About 2 more weeks swetz hi Kelley Joe_K back to more normal Joe_K and Swetz been doing Taxes Alvin hi Kelley Joe_K So Joe_K slower Joe_K at Forum Alvin can u post a layered chart example ? Joe_K Yep Joe_K ES you like ? Alvin cool thanks! Kelley hey Alvin Alvin yep Joe_K Sure biwi joe giving them away biwi lol Alvin That would be great thanks soilguy I'm backed up too Joe so I'm going to the bathroom and then to bed Thanks as always Jerry left. Joe_K I can do a Corn and a ES Jerry joined. biwi lol Kelley how about that Benny? Alvin cool Joe_K lol biwi gn SG Joe_K Susan Joe_K lol swetz Benny SUCKS ! ! !! !! ! !! ! !! Joe_K Poor Chucky soilguy gn all Kelley the ole Benster soilguy left. swetz but that is just my opinion - lol Joe_K We cant win Joe_K Shell never stop Joe_K lol swetz howdy kelley, I missed you earlier Kelley hi Swetz Alvin me too Kelley Kelley how have you been? biwi hi swetz swetz howdy biwi swetz hanging in there Kelley ok, good man swetz one more week then full-time trader again swetz yipeeeeeeee Kelley cool swetz ::smile Alvin me too...lol Jerry Awsome Kelley you still grabbing the waitresses? swetz cool Alvin, you do taxes too? Alvin no but I may need some done someday swetz lol kelley, they dont call me octopus boy for nothing Kelley :) Kelley lol swetz ::smile biwi i try to avoid em swetz swetz lol biwi ::biggrin Alvin lol biwi better in my pocket then theres biwi lol swetz lol biwi Joe thanks for tonight Great stuff as usual Kelley ok, I had better do some chart work Folks. Nice to see you and have a great evening, ty. Alvin yeah Joe good job...Thanks! Joe_K Anytime Alvin goodnite Kelley Kelley ty Joe, good night biwi bye gn kelly Joe_K Was checking sports Kelley gn Alvin Joe_K lol Alvin gn Jerry I'll pack it in folks Oyasuminasai Minnasan. Gary_W left. Kelley gn biwi Joe_K Ok Jerry left. Joe_K See yas in AM swetz cy Kelley swetz cy Joe Alvin goodnite Joe Joe_K and stuff swetz cy Alvin Joe_K Swetz Kelley gn Swetz Joe_K Kel Alvin goodnite Swetz Joe_K Alvin biwi thanks again swetz ::smile Joe_K Biwi Kelley its like.... Joe_K lol Kelley dark and stuff Joe_K Handles was sick today biwi gn all biwi yeah swetz gn biwi biwi better now Alvin left. Joe_K Now he goes on road Joe_K Toronto swetz left. biwi yes TO Kelley left. Joe_K Bet that sucks Joe_K lol biwi terrible drive 5 hours boring biwi no scenery Joe_K Was just watching grains past 2 days biwi and Joe_K Still got your beans Joe_K ? biwi no Joe_K I think 720 or better biwi covered Joe_K Scalp ? biwi i was short today biwi yeah nothing there biwi i'm long crn here biwi tonight Joe_K Was oh ya acted dumb today Joe_K saw it biwi yes biwi speads got whacked Joe_K yeah was weird biwi short one bean long two crn biwi is the spread biwi today crn dwn 9 beans up 4 Joe_K Wheat still tracking that 50-56 area Joe_K interesting biwi looks good so far biwi if it hold sabove 450 Joe_K Thats a guess pivot biwi no Joe_K I can see UP and Down from there biwi historic number biwi years of charting Joe_K yes biwi 450 has always been a sell Joe_K But its Mid Range Joe_K lol tom left. biwi top of the wheat mkt biwi 1996 biwi we went above it Joe_K I'll be more focussed again next week Joe_K doing other stuff Joe_K this week biwi no problem Joe_K side crap biwi i think crn has a lot more to go now Joe_K could biwi plus less risky Joe_K Clearest still beans too me biwi 20 cent limits biwi on dwn side i agree here biwi 677 was my previous trgt Joe_K poss biwi 680 Joe_K Lets see if we get 20-19 how she acts biwi between 751 is a sell Joe_K IF we get it Joe_K and go from there biwi crn will test the 400's biwi again Joe_K I think it will biwi 90 cents off the highs biwi 50% Joe_K Healthy break cool by me Joe_K lol biwi retracement caching Joe_K yep biwi caching Joe_K Watch Cotton Joe_K soon Joe_K :) biwi looks bad these days Joe_K The Devil Joe_K Gonna eat and nap biwi sugar too Joe_K See you in Am Bro biwi ook thanks bro Joe_K Yep Joe_K Sugar biwi ok biwi Gn Joe_K Handles gone ? biwi speak in the Am biwi y Joe_K ok biwi long time ago he was out of it biwi lol Joe_K Talk in am Joe_K then Joe_K :) Joe_K lol biwi ciao Joe_K k Joe_K left. biwi left. rhonda left. 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