Gary_Fullett joined. Joe_K Unless Dentist got him Joe_K lol swetz oops, speak of the devil swetz lol Doc_K joined. JulieH Hey where is the apple icon? Gotta have one for teach ::cool Joe_K lol Gary_Fullett good evening swetz hi Doc and Gary Joe_K Gary was on E Bay bidding for Martha Stewart story ( book) swetz figured it would be on Apple's web site Joe_K Gary, I figure we'll kick off in about 10 min swetz I thought Gary was bidding on those inflatable dolls Doc_K hi all swetz & gary swetz on Ebay swetz lol BBob joined. Gary_Fullett hey doc and all Joe_K Hi Doc Joe_K Bob Joe_K and others BBob Joeydevito Joe_K :) BBob semi's got cramerized BBob is this a chart night? Joe_K Lecture BBob ok swetz hi bob JimC left. JimC joined. Steve good evening Gary, all swetz nice SMH chart Bob swetz ::smile BBob I need a lecture on implementing surgical precision on charts so I can swetzinte them and then bail... aka grow etc.. lol Gary_Fullett hi steve swetz howdy steve swetz lol bob swetz they don't all work out that well Bob Doc_K hi joe swetz I wish they did BBob it was interesting to see sotting low closes on the Q's swetz swetz ::smile swetz yep Steve hey swetz...glad to see Doc made it past the skillet lol BBob hourly chart.. figured it was time to take a short scalp swetz lol Steve Dave_M nice move today on qid BBob did you see my january Pop chart? swetz yep, looks like a spring in QID BBob now that was a trick just like last year Dave_M be nice to see a retest so I can jump in swetz I think we will get it Dave Dave_M looks like a good vehicle if markets go south swetz but likely another down day tomorrow in QQQQ due to the low close Dave_M y swetz yep Dave, I agree swetz Joe, do you have anything you would like to say? Joe_K I will need Swetz to pick someone , WHO then will pick anyone in the room, as I need 1 voulunteer from the audience vijay joined. swetz okay I pick Bob Joe_K and yes a few things to talk on vijay Hello all ::rose BBob figures.. lol swetz lol Joe_K Helo swetz howdy vijay BBob I have high LOK vijay Howdy Swetz vijay Hi Joe swetz well Bob, you get to pick somebody now vijay hi Gary Gary_Fullett hi vijay Gary_Fullett open night swetz who will be Joe's volunteer Gary_Fullett joe and swetz wanted to talk then em swetz but sounds more like a draft to me BBob I pick dave kent joined. swetz ::smile vijay Open night? Drinks on the house? swetz lol vijay Dave_M on the dunking stool hey vijay ::beer Joe_K lol swetz kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnttttttttt ::smile Joe_K Ok Dave it IS swetz lol Dave kent sssssssssswwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttttttttttttzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :) Dave_M this is a set up i think BBob I'm drinking a warm tea with water and lots of honey mixed in... I'm like a rocket now Gary_Fullett kent lol swetz yep, dave, we planned this beforehand Joe_K Dave can you climb into the box, and Swetz hand me a no 1 saw ... Joe_K lol swetz lol Joe Joe_K Ok Dave swetz lol Bob Joe_K stand tight Dave_M ok Joe_K I'll ask you a Q in a minute Dave_M i'm braced swetz lol Joe_K OK Lets get started Dave_M i can run now quick.... swetz all ears Joe Joe_K I figure I would start with something swetz lol Dave Joe_K Non trade related swetz please Joe Dave_M let's have it joe Joe_K To get you at ease Joe_K Ok Everyone in the room Dave_M soft music? Dave_M ut o Joe_K Pic a number, but DONT say it out loud Dave_M got it swetz the answer is sot, ut, spring, bc, sc, lps, lpsy, joc - lol Joe_K Pic any number you like in your head Dave_M lol Joe_K Dont say it Dave_M y Joe_K Ok ? vijay ok Kelley joined. Joe_K Everyone have their numbers ? swetz for just Dave or all of us Joe? swetz okay, I got mine kent y BBob oh, we need one too? swetz hi Kelley Dave_M i need a diving buddy :) swetz yep Bob Joe_K Everyone pick a number in your head but dont say it out loud Kelley hi Swetz:) Joe_K OK Kelley good evening Folks:) Joe_K Now kent hey Kelley Joe_K Take that number vijay GE kelley Joe_K Double it Kelley hi Kent Dave_M y Kelley hi Vijay Dave_M I'm running out of fingures..... swetz okay Joe swetz lol Dave Steve in my head? wish i'd picked a smaller number lol Joe_K OK swetz lol Steve vijay lol steve Joe_K My assistant Dave swetz glad I picked 0 - lol Dave_M y Joe_K Will now say any number he wants out loud Joe_K Dave ? kent lol vijay ::smile Dave_M 4 x 2 = 8 Joe_K 8 Joe_K Is it ? Dave_M y Joe_K Ok Joe_K Everyone should have a number in their head Gary_Fullett :) Joe_K They doubled it Joe_K Now add 8 Joe_K to it swetz okay, got it Dave_M 16 Joe_K Ok BBob the number in my head is what i'm worth Joe_K Now Joe_K Take the entire number Joe_K You have Joe_K Split it straight in half swetz okay Joe_K YOU ALL have 4 Dave_M They teach you this stuff in the military.... Joe_K :) swetz if Zack were here, he could use his abacus Dave_M 8 swetz ::smile Joe_K Nope Dave Joe_K 4 Dave_M ok Gary_Fullett lol Gary_Fullett fingers Joe_K Everyone has 4 Joe_K No matter what they chose Joe_K as 1st number kent 1958 swetz I dont vijay no Steve i don't either lol Dave_M nope vijay i think you missed a step! Joe_K Swetz your 1st number please Dave_M explain swetz 9 vijay LOL Joe_K 9 Joe_K Doubled Joe_K 18 swetz 18 Joe_K plus 8 Joe_K 24 swetz 26 Joe_K Split in half swetz nope 26 Joe_K 13 swetz right 13 Joe_K minus Joe_K 8 Joe_K = 4 Joe_K :) swetz nope 5 swetz lol Steve i knew this wouldn't be easy lol kent my 1st number was 1954, lol BBob joe needs a fourth dimsion for yours swetz vijay I think you need to subtract the number you selected JulieH Aren't you supposed to take a shot by now of tequila? vijay then you will get 4 swetz lol kent Dave_M bob...this is all your fault... Joe_K Its 4 Dave_M you encouraged him Kelley topic please BBob bad math .. anything can go wrong swetz 13-8 will never be 4 kent 13-8=5 vijay 13-9=4 swetz but I didnt take new math swetz lol Steve lol kent lol Joe_K Your number was 9 Joe_K Swetz swetz yeah but you said 13-8 Joe_K 13-9 =4 swetz okay Joe, I am with you kent I get it kent lol swetz ::smile Joe_K OK Steve whew... Joe_K Lets try another Doc_K sub ur orig # kent my number was 1954 kent lol Gary_Fullett :) BBob this is like the time the instructor said.. repeat after me.. oh wa ta goo siam swetz lol kent Dave_M UT, BC, SOS, JOC.....ahhhh LPS swetz my number is 1,325,987 swetz lol kent lol Joe_K 1954 doubled 3908 Joe_K plus 8 Joe_K 3916 Joe_K split in half Joe_K 1958 Joe_K minus orig number Joe_K 1954 swetz pretty cool Joe Dave_M Will this help me get my loss back on KNOT? Joe_K = 4 kent ok, got it Joe_K :) vijay (2*x+8)/2 - x ===== 4 Joe_K Hee Hee BBob you didn't dave swetz cool vijay Joe_K Ok swetz lol Dave Steve lol vijay Joe_K You traveling on a path Peter hi everyone one Peter topic? Joe_K come to fork swetz you should be out of KNOT at 30-31, was PnF target kent hey Peter Joe_K in road Dave_M naaah sold at 30.24 :) Doc_K 8/2=4 Kelley hi Peter swetz nice job swetz hi Peter, Dave_M I was listening :) Doc_K this is an illousion Steve good job dave swetz Joe is teaching us math swetz ::smile BBob what is the concept here.. kent lol Peter hi Kent & Kelley, what's the topic, algebra? BBob I have fuzzy math Art joined. swetz close Peter Kelley no idea Peter Steve i'm glad this is logged... i got lost 1st time lol Peter hey Swetz Doc_K the basic is 8/2 kent naw, a number game swetz vijay has the algebraic formula Peter looks like Vijay had it figured out :) Kelley hi Art Dave_M I'm going to use it as a PFC in TC2007 vijay Swetz.. count taken at 26? count of 7 or 5? Dave_M see if it helps me with my mechanical trading:) Art hi Kelley and everyone swetz in KNOT vijay? vijay yep Peter fortunately I remember my highschool algebra, and I did take the new math 40 years ago :) swetz 5+26 swetz I sold mine at 31 swetz using trailing stop swetz got to 31.49 though Joe_K Are we done meeten and greeten ? kent math and I aren't that close of friends, lol swetz lol kent Peter ok I'm ready with a glass of ::wine , waht's next :) Joe_K I'll wait swetz I am listening Joe vijay i am ready warren joined. swetz lol Peter kent just one Peter? lol swetz just answering a question Peter yes Kent, it's early here ;) Kelley lol Joe_K I'll let you guys talk, nevermind Joe_K left. Gary_Fullett yikes swetz lol Peter what happened with Joe? BBob as usual I didn't get it vijay no no.. lets start vijay times is money swetz Peter - you ran him off Kelley what is going on? Peter oh oh, what did I say? Dave_M gesss sw, go easy on him will ya Peter sorry I didn't realize I was interrupting something swetz I didnt either Peter Gary_Fullett well dont know kent Joe missed his nap, lol JulieH Well I gotta go rest my brain before Joe gets out a Rubics cube. swetz lol Dave Gary_Fullett its an open night BBob joe is dead serious you know Art hi warren kent lol Julie Gary_Fullett lol julie Peter I scrolled back and thought math was over vijay funny julie Dave_M that's what's scary bob... JulieH see you guys in the morning kent c ya Julie Steve gnight julie Peter cy Julie swetz lol Julie JulieH I talk more with you guys than my family Kelley enjoy the tequila BBob me too JulieH ::laugh Peter we are a cyber-family here warren hi Art, hi everyone -- sorry to be late Kelley dont forget the salt::wink Gary_Fullett hey waren Steve math was over.. he was in the second scenario.... fork in the road.... then,,, he took the high road JulieH left. walter joined. Peter hi Warren, finally beautiful here today, short weather Peter shorts Peter welcome walter walter hi kent hey warren Steve hello walter swetz okay guys swetz I am the substitute teacher for Joe swetz so sit down and shut up - LOL kent lol Alvin joined. Peter ok Swetz...I guess it's stocks time ;) BBob swetz is sister mary elephant kent ok teach :) swetz this is good for futures and stocks swetz you guys know the 9 Wyckoff buying/selling tests? kent y swetz applies to BOTH stocks and futures vijay sir yes sir kent lol vijay Peter I know it works with all markets, the only difference is the personality of the chart Peter y warren decent day here today also Peter -- was out enjoying Gary's favorite food -- Chinese! swetz yep, different personality but still follows Wyckoff principles swetz okay, quiz for you guys kent lol warren swetz who can name ALL 9 buying tests? Doc_K i dony know 9 b/s test BBob sadly no I don't know the 9 tests Dave_M hummm...previous objective met (pnf) swetz there is a Hightower Book waiting the winner vijay I can name some I think Kelley let me get my notes Dave_M hummm trend is broken/cleared swetz need ALL 9 vijay OK for going long swetz come on folks - I got faith you guys swetz faith in Gary_Fullett lol Peter . Backup to Creek 2. JOC after seeing absorption at creek 3. Retest of spring 4. Spring, itself 5. LPS after SOS 6. Normal reaction within an established uptrend 7. Support of TR 8. Retest of ordinary/terminal shakeout vijay 1. Downward target should have been met Dave_M market direction is in harmony swetz vijay is on the right path Peter oh oh h, I think I have the wrong list :) lol vijay 2. downtrend should be broken swetz you better know these because it will help you determine accumulation or distribution of a TR swetz it = they Kelley keep going Vijay! swetz lol Peter vijay 3. Enough cause should be there Gary_Fullett good swetz you doing good vijay vijay scratching my head!!!! Kelley you can do it BBob sos Dave_M cause has been built to meet/exceed 3:1 r/r vijay 4. TR should be postive, i.e. higher highs and higher lows Gary_Fullett right good swetz that is 4 and 5 so you got 4 more to go vijay 5. oh oh vijay 6. market shoudl be in an uptrend Larry joined. vijay and in the right postion warren if in downtrend, then cob vijay ah.. not the right terminology.. but you get the picture BBob must be a joc of tr creek .. ? swetz Larry - we are trying to name the 9 buying test according to Wyckoff Larry ok thx Gary_Fullett this is good swetz if you can name all 9 Larry - you get a free Hightower book Gary_Fullett imp swetz courtesy of Gary vijay 7. Stock relatively stronger than the market???? Dave_M needs to have a sos and lps swetz come on guys, go, go, go swetz ::smile Dave_M well i said count already vijay 8. Stock should be in a buy point, i.e. should have a sos and lps swetz these should be memorized, they should come ouf of your mouths without thinking vijay Get the price ready Swetz vijay what is the 9th one? Steve this have anything to do with your 2 questions a couple saturdays ago swetz? BBob ok, memory stick needs applying swetz I cant remeber that far back Steve - lol Steve i don't think it did lol... that was types of ending actions Steve and recognizing accumulation and distribution swetz I dont see anybody yet with ALL 9 Gary_Fullett 9 is alot lol swetz lol kent lol Larry 1. actively bullish (higher vol rallies, lees on declines)2. higher lows 3. higher highs 4. favorable rel strength 5. correctio completed in price and/or time (1/2 retracement, support line reached)6. adaquate cause on pnf 7. 3-1 reward to risk ... dont know the rest,oops vijay 9. ?? vijay cant remember kent #9 pass the swetz test, lol swetz your #8 is not right vijay swetz lol kent vijay oh swetz but is important Larry 8. swetz likes it 9. gary likes it too ... there we go - 9, lol swetz lol Larry kent lol vijay lol vijay let me think swetz you guys give up? Dave_M uncle BBob 4 is for golfers swetz lol swetz you get a free Hightower book out of this swetz I won one myself 2 years ago kent My CD-ROM is broken, been too long since I read the Pruden CD, lol swetz I got it framed swetz ::smile BBob I'm reading pruden now.. I cant cheat swetz lol bob BBob ok ..good idea swetz lol kent swetz Vijay - you are the closest swetz but need all 9 - 7 aint good enough vijay cant remember till now.. i think i cant get it!!! Larry on springboard, got to be one of them vijay Favourable risk/reward should be there? swetz lol larry - nope swetz yep, that is one of them vijay vijay wohooo vijay one more vijay to go swetz but still missing 2 vijay oh swetz I thought you already said that vijay i did... sorry Larry after sc BBob A series of SOS’s and LPS’s is good evidence that a bottom is in place and Price Markup has begun - pruden swetz maybe swetz Gary will give you guys each a page of the book swetz lol Larry lol swetz if you get all 9 as a team Larry has ps,sc,ar,st sequence swetz you guys give up? BBob volume increases on rallies... decreases on reactions vijay common... 2 more swetz let me know when you give up swetz and I will list them kent please swetz Larry uncle... BBob I will swetz Gary is smiling, he gets to keep his hightower books for one more week vijay come back tomorrow swetz vijay LOL Joe_K joined. swetz lol vijay BBob ask joe he knows swetz yeah, I know Joe knows swetz but he already has Hightower book Joe_K ? Steve name 9 wyckoff buying tests is the question joe BBob joe.. we figured out that math is for golfers swetz name the 9 wyckoff buying tests Joe_K Well had a lecture planned, but too many talking, so went and got a Wendys Gary_Fullett naw swetz Gary_Fullett :) Joe_K I'll just eat and observe swetz okay guys, you ready for the list? Peter y swetz very important Steve ready here swetz okay kent y BBob but swetz.. the 9 tests are for a classical accumulation.. amos said a V shaped recovery ain't in the model... swetz since I dont trade V shaped recovery I am not worried about it swetz lol swetz 1. downside target reached Joe_K oh 9 tests Joe_K Its in CD swetz 2. PS and SC but ending action is fine too Peter V shape sounds like a spring or shakeout BBob wendy's must be next door to joe's house Joe_K 2 blocks Joe_K :) swetz 3. supply trendline broken to the upside swetz 4. volume increases on rallies and decreases on breaks swetz in other words acts bullishly swetz 5. stock exhibits relative strenght swetz strength swetz 6. higher bottoms swetz 7. higher tops swetz 8. base formation has formed swetz 9. has enough cause for favorable risk:reward ratio swetz Wyckoff suggests that 3:1 is that ratio swetz so there you go vijay great Kelley enjoy that book swetz Joe had a Saturday class about a month ago Joe_K ( Still cant believe they only use 9 tests ) swetz where we discussed copper Peter yery good Swetz, did you do that from memory? swetz yes sir Peter good job! vijay ::ninja Gary_Fullett lol Gary_Fullett swetz is good Larry they mean TR for "base formation"? or something else swetz we discussed copper using the 9 tests vijay ::up swetz and determined that TR was distribution Joe_K Its called Accumulation vijay is that class in the archieves? swetz right Joe swetz using the 9 selling tests vijay saturday - maybe not swetz I dont think so vijay vijay i missed it swetz but we nailed copper BEFORE it fell swetz by just going throught this checklist BBob so do you have the 9 buying re-accumulation tests in memory tooo? Joe_K You guys should know all these by heart ( especially you dogs at this for 1 year or more ) swetz right Joe Peter you guys should have traded it, but now I think accumulation is nearby vijay Let me ask this.... do you use this these tests all the time? swetz I totally agree swetz okay guys, I just gave you the 9 buying tests BBob I have high LOM then swetz if you guys can give me the 9 selling tests swetz Gary will give you a Hightower book swetz for first one that can name all 9 selling tests Kelley from memory? swetz I did Peter, remember the PCU copper stock I shorted swetz ::smile BBob 1 might be upside objective.. snicker swetz yes sir Kelley swetz Bob is on the right path Kelley just wanted to make sure swetz ::smile BBob classic ps, bc ar Larry 1. upside target reached 2. predemand, BC 3. demand TL broken 4. vol decreases on rallies, increases on breaks 5. poor rel strength vs mkt 6. lower lows 7. lower highs 8. base formation formed 9. enough cause for favorable reward:risk vijay 1. Upward target reached. 2. PSY and BC or ending action 3. Downtrend line broken 4. Positive behavior - vol increases on reaction and decreases on rallies 5. stock weaker than the market 6. lower lows 7 lower tops 8. enough cause built for movement 9. favourable risk reward Kelley drop in vol for rallies, increase on selling swetz Larry just edged Vijay by a nose Larry lol swetz congragulations Larry you have earned yourself a Hightower book vijay what about the time difference? Kelley upward trend broken Steve you type too fast larry lol Larry oh yeah! who's hightower?,lol swetz oops Vijay got #3 wrong Kelley Vijay! swetz uptrend line broken not downtrend line Kelley too fast:) BBob I think one of them is "cramer says sell" swetz lol Larry kent lol bob vijay oh no BBob ok, you now have humiliated me into submission.. back to the books Joe_K These on Pruden CD, see Hudson, Jack K. also" Charting The Market: The Wyckoff Way " swetz I want to say something important about these selling/buying tests swetz these buying/selling tests are generally in the same order that they are passed in a TR swetz I believe and Joe and Gary can correct me Joe_K Just pray it isnt in Re-Accumulation vijay Clarification please - didnt understand your previous sentence swetz but I believe that the reason Wyckoff said that buying a backup to creek and selling a rally to ice Joe_K As Hank has BC in that Joe_K lol swetz is the #1 setup swetz was because at this point, ALL 9 of the buying/selling tests have been passed swetz so your chances of success are the greatest swetz lol Joe Joe_K Well you know thats messed up Joe_K lol BBob did you know he has 9 re-accumulation tests joe? swetz I told you to ask him about that Joe swetz Vijay Joe_K Bob did you know I use 35-40 tests for these ? Joe_K :) swetz the order in which I listed the 9 buying/selling tests BBob wow vijay passed in a TR? vijay you mean they occur in order? swetz are generally the same order those tests are met or passed vijay right swetz while the TR is developing vijay ok swetz now, these tests are in classical accumulation/distribution phases Steve base formation is, Accumulation or Distribution? swetz both Steve Steve or .. cause swetz actually called crown formation in distribution Joe_K This refers to a Horizontal Price Line swetz but means thte same thing swetz it means like Joe said Gary_Fullett thjsi si the basics that joe and swetz are saying Gary_Fullett its important swetz an sideways area where support is located in accumulation TR swetz and resistance is located in distribution TR swetz not exact points but AREA Joe_K You can add guys too this vijay Is there anytime these tests can be ignored, or at least parts of the test ignored? Joe_K Spreads check BBob page 87.. hutson Joe_K Tons of stuff Joe_K Cash Basis Joe_K Fibs swetz Vijay - great question Joe_K Whatever your heart desires vijay Like, if you are looking at a 15% profit on a stock, so you really check all the tests? vijay testing color swetz these tests just help us to locate the best TRs vijay test swetz like Amos said, we need to be selective swetz Joe mentions this as well Joe_K You can cheat too Joe_K Pick main things Joe_K SC swetz right Joe Joe_K PS swetz PS, SC is #2 test Joe_K If it seems fuzzy walk the dog up and down every test swetz but we KNOW that NOT ALL markdowns END with PS/SC swetz right BBob amos said ps is important swetz some just end with a lack of supply followed by demand Joe_K Very Joe_K So is a LPSY swetz right Joe Joe_K Triggers Joe_K Guys the best way to do this Joe_K Print it swetz when you guys see a TR and you cant tell what it is accumulation or distribution swetz apply these tests to it Joe_K Have coppies in the John swetz and you will be amazed Joe_K study when you go poddy swetz what kind of knowledge you pick up swetz the TR will start making sense to you vijay So when you are populating your watch list with all the scans, do you check if these tests are passing before adding them to you watchlist? Joe_K Youll know them as youve been trading the entire range most times anyway vijay right swetz usually by the time the stock reaches my watchlist, it has already had SOS which means that more than likely the 9 tests have passed swetz but I do look for them vijay Joe_K If your falling and falling and falling Gary_W joined. vijay falling? Joe_K and get a first meaningful response from Demand vijay oh ok Joe_K What is that ? vijay got it vijay continue Joe_K What is it ? Peter PS swetz PS Joe_K Yes vijay PS Larry PS Dave_M ps Joe_K Thats your trigger vijay no vijay potential PS - right? Joe_K You know you see cob with Demand in a free fall vijay or is it PS for sure? swetz yes potential vijay Joe_K So you sequence Kelley yes BBob in an uptrend you can pick up the accumulation pattern Joe_K You know you can do what from there ? swetz SC Peter right possible/potential vijay, but often is,, Larry look for SC Larry then AR Joe_K Rally Back To Ice ( Broken ) upstairs Joe_K Or sell further into SC Joe_K right ? Kelley y Joe_K Sequence it Joe_K Look ahead Joe_K I see PS Joe_K PS is PS Joe_K Its nothing else Joe_K PS Joe_K What is PS Joe_K Its PS Joe_K What is after PS Joe_K ect Joe_K Ya got to learn the anatomy of the TR Joe_K It happens OVER and OVER Joe_K the same Dave_M gotta run guys Joe_K In EVERY market Dave_M nice job steve and joe,,, thanks Joe_K Stock Commod Dave_M for the help Joe_K They all do it Joe_K Thanks Dave Dave_M left. Kelley gn Dave Joe_K You guys should know these Joe_K already Joe_K truthfully Kelley y, there are several new people here BBob I had ps on spx on jan. 3.. then noticed tr pattern.. broke through around 1412.. on up to 1435.. for phase pnf potential reached Joe_K I know I sound hard, harsh, Im not hammering Joe_K Its WHAT you must do Joe_K If you want it Joe_K You STUDY Joe_K If you dont Joe_K Oh well Joe_K Just take 1 Larry . Joe_K Learn it Joe_K Walk through each 1 Joe_K slow Joe_K learn it Joe_K Its not rocket science Joe_K All these scematics Joe_K Are the material Joe_K The foundation Joe_K To TR's Joe_K Richard was MASTER of the TR Joe_K Its why Swetz Joe_K Is so very important Joe_K He shows you correctly Joe_K Classical Joe_K and correct Joe_K Solid foundation = Solid Trader Joe_K Built strong Joe_K block by block Joe_K UP Joe_K Thats what we do here Joe_K Build Traders Joe_K Ya got to want it Joe_K If ya want the big bucks Joe_K It starts with this Joe_K Ground Zero Joe_K Guys think about it Joe_K Why trade ? Joe_K To make the $ Joe_K right ? Larry . Peter y Joe_K This gets you closer to that Joe_K I traded 3 years Joe_K got crucified Joe_K Beaten Joe_K Bloodied Joe_K Badgered Joe_K Sliced Joe_K Diced Joe_K Spit on Joe_K Set on Fire Joe_K When you get tired of that Joe_K You learn THIS Joe_K Or you join the 95% Club Joe_K Dirt Dart Joe_K Ground Gopher Joe_K Mat Hugger Peter what Joe and Swetz are saying are correct, once you learn it, just keep in mind that all markets are not classical, so have some flexibility, but understanding these basicsare absolutly essential Joe_K Yep Joe_K These are the first steps BBob if you'd like an autographed 9 classic tests poster I can fill your order for $19.95 Joe_K Im serious Joe_K Do you know what your up against ??? Joe_K Every day ? Joe_K The BEST Joe_K The PROS BBob yeah Joe_K You wont take Michael Jordon on 1 on 1 BBob and I'm squirming every day Joe_K Would you ? Joe_K Heck no Joe_K Hed smoke you Joe_K Thats what these guys do Joe_K SMOKE Joe_K Why Joe_K Because you are a speculator Joe_K You are the LINK Joe_K That ties the knots Joe_K Do you know the 5 portions of Speculation ? Joe_K Anyone ? Larry . vijay ? ? ? ? ? vijay no Joe_K So we dont know who we are ? warren money management Joe_K 1) Self Reliance Joe_K 2) Judgment Joe_K 3)Courage Joe_K 4) Prudence Joe_K 5) Pliability Joe_K OK Joe_K jeesh Joe_K This is basics Joe_K Your out there trading and dont know WHO you are and what you are, guess what, they will SHOW YOU Joe_K Serious business Joe_K guys Joe_K I wont sugar coat it Joe_K Seen too many blow out Joe_K Amos hit it last night Joe_K on the HEAD Joe_K I love all of you too death Joe_K BUT GET SERIOUS Joe_K Bob is trying Joe_K Harder than many Joe_K He works too Joe_K alot Joe_K I seen spurts in Kelly Joe_K Kent and Peter know this Joe_K Ron, Pat, others Joe_K I dont know as well BBob I realized I don't have surgical precision like swetz.. that hurts Joe_K Many of you are learning in bits and pieces Joe_K Thats COOL Joe_K You wont Bob Joe_K Not yet Joe_K Swetz spent 10000000000 Joe_K Hours Joe_K Thats why Joe_K Youll get there Joe_K YOU all will Joe_K If you can survive Joe_K long enough BBob well I'm on my 8th zero.. 4 more to go Joe_K I dont think Peter has ever blown out Peter you don't need the presision Bob, make sure you have the money & risk management are under control first... Peter right Joe, I never have Joe_K Ive blown out 3 times Joe_K 3 Joe_K not 1 Joe_K not 2 Joe_K but 3 Joe_K Thats terrible Peter I was lucky, I have a risk management background Joe_K Means I was an ignorant fool Joe_K So I corrected it Joe_K If I CAN Joe_K ANYONE can Joe_K Im a dumb ass X soldier Joe_K ok ? Joe_K From middle town USA JimC left. Joe_K Bum F nowhere Joe_K Your going against the BUFFETS Peter but Joe you have the passion and drive to learn what it takes Joe_K SOROS Joe_K ok ? Joe_K Yes Peter Joe_K I want to make money Joe_K So I stopped and started learning Joe_K Anyone can do this Joe_K $$$$ kent only reason I came to Gary's class is because I saw that passion in your posts at INO.COM, lol Joe_K Many have come here by me Joe_K BUT we all share 1 bond Joe_K We want to succeed Peter thanks to Joe and Gary, I learned this stuff in my spare time Joe_K Gary has over 25 years Joe_K Floor Joe_K ON and OFF Joe_K Gary got lit up too Joe_K Hes been on the mat Joe_K Black Monday Gary_Fullett have too part of the biz Peter you stock guys are extremely fortunate to have someone like Swetz Joe_K Gary is a SURVIVOR Gary_Fullett like like sports trading ect BBob yeah.. swetz is a real blessing Joe_K Swetz is a GEM Larry yes peter Joe_K Brought Stocks folks too Commods folks Joe_K BRIDGED the GAP Joe_K It makes us stronger kent just keep him away from the cookies, lol Joe_K lol Gary_Fullett folks Joe_K Stock Market Technique Vol 1 Gary_Fullett i joe swetz and others Joe_K Spec stuff Joe_K i mentioned Peter keep in mind this stuff started with Richard Wyckoff and stocks, so it has come full circle right here :) Gary_Fullett started from scracth Joe_K Gary please Joe_K go ahead Gary_Fullett so it was taught as well as learned Gary_Fullett ty joe Gary_Fullett was unreal good tonight Joe_K no ty Swetz Gary_Fullett folks what joe explained Joe_K He lit the fuze Gary_Fullett was told to u by his heart Joe_K lol Gary_Fullett his efforts Gary_Fullett and its so good Gary_Fullett if u read it and re read it Gary_Fullett it makes more and more sense Gary_Fullett beleive me Gary_Fullett its good stuff Gary_Fullett to em Gary_Fullett joe is as good as amos and david Gary_Fullett and i mean that Gary_Fullett and swetz as weel Gary_Fullett well Gary_Fullett because of hard work Gary_Fullett and his niche Gary_Fullett he is a NUt Gary_Fullett u all know this Gary_Fullett but the passion is unamtrched Gary_Fullett i am not blowing smoke up his rectum Gary_Fullett and swetz 's stuff on joe site is unreal Gary_Fullett we are blessed Joe_K y Gary_Fullett by david amos joee swetz zack peter ect.. Gary_Fullett i am serious Gary_Fullett hard works gets us all there Joe_K We are blessed to have a mentor like Gary that brang us all together Joe_K in 1 spot Gary_Fullett any q on amos stuff last night? Gary_Fullett did u like it Gary_Fullett ther eis NO other site Gary_Fullett that does what we do kent yes, great stuff vijay very nice class Gary_Fullett yes we joke but no one does this vijay yesterday vijay and today pat I agree--a very unique group-- Gary_Fullett it unquique Gary_Fullett when others want to help others Gary_Fullett thats a rareity Gary_Fullett because most want to see a demise Gary_Fullett and want to see others LOSE Gary_Fullett I am serious Gary_Fullett its a shame Gary_Fullett this chat Gary_Fullett is for to get better Gary_Fullett thats why we must respect each other Gary_Fullett we can have othe r appraches Gary_Fullett we may or may not agree Gary_Fullett but respect the thought Gary_Fullett becasue even if u dont agree Joe_K If we can teach, we also reinforce training on ourselves as we do Gary_Fullett there will eb a thought u will find useful Gary_Fullett i promise u that Joe_K Each hand feeds eachoth Gary_Fullett thats unique Joe_K in a circle Gary_Fullett look at a forum like market forum Gary_Fullett and u see the crap Joe_K y Gary_Fullett okay any q on joes stuff swetz stuff Gary_Fullett or amos? Gary_Fullett joe and and swetz doing classs on saturday? Gary_Fullett times? Joe_K Y Joe_K Football game Kel ? Joe_K lol Steve yep.. i'm having trouble visualizing breaking a supply trendline as a buying test Kelley both on Sunday\ Kelley :) swetz I cant Joe Joe_K I will be there swetz I will be in Tupelo at 2 pm Joe_K 4:00pm Kelley cool swetz but will try to come in later Joe_K ok Swetz Joe_K cool kent what is in Tupleo? lol Gary_Fullett well u need to break a suppy area swetz yes Joe, you do class Gary_Fullett to turn up Steve joe has a preplanned lecture he didn't get to use tonight Joe_K I will cover some Sat swetz stock market workshop Steve ok..... got ya gary..... previous ice? Joe_K and maybe pop a quiz kent ok, lol Kelley no charts? BBob when? time? Gary_Fullett yes steve Joe_K 4:00pm Eastern Joe_K Sat Joe_K Here Gary_Fullett give a book out joe Gary_Fullett hightower Gary_Fullett to the winner vijay OK guys / gals - time to sleep Joe_K I'll give em a swat Joe_K lol Peter Joe and I may disagree on the usefulness of news or some silly debate on predict vs vs anticipate but we both respect each other, you won't find that on other sites..mostly nonsensical bashing vijay thanks for the great class Joe_K Yes Peter Joe_K I want folks to disagree kent but they are intertaining (your debates :) ) Joe_K Just make your premise sound Joe_K Yes vijay I wonder when I will be ready to disagree Joe_K But come Beans today LIVE in a tr did I need News ? Joe_K lol kent lol Joe_K Huh ? Joe_K 4 exact hits Gary_Fullett the impute from all of u Joe_K sep targets Gary_Fullett we all learn Joe_K So News is ok BBob I posted a chart on joe's site.. not sure I'd be able to label it correctly for dist. tr vijay where are the ::beer ? Joe_K to know when Gary_Fullett i learn more from u that u do from me Steve I like the input Jim has brought.... but, i really try hard to see what he's seeing in a chart lol Gary_Fullett because u open my mind Joe_K I will say this Peter I don't even have news anymore, Tradestation conflicts with my TV PC software :) Joe_K Ive been in ES Joe_K 8:20 Gary_Fullett jim is unique Joe_K and took a hit Gary_Fullett and quite frankly vijay LOL peter Joe_K because I didnt wait swetz lol peter Gary_Fullett i dont agree withj him Joe_K till after News Gary_Fullett most times Joe_K spike Joe_K So Gary_Fullett with looking at fundies vijay you need a iTV Gary_Fullett but his tech work is very good Joe_K lol vijay and a iPHONE Steve you think learning what is taught here.... try learning all the fundamental stuff jim is... daily.. it's not redundant lol Gary_Fullett but fundies icky Kelley Joe, I'll see you Sat, 4 EST vijay $$$ Art left. Joe_K Good Joe_K :) Joe_K COLE !! Gary_Fullett but be careful with jim info Gary_Fullett because he knows how to trade it Gary_Fullett his way Gary_Fullett U dont Kelley "I love that car" Peter lol vijay, I'm a tech-junkie, I'll have them someday ;) Joe_K lol kent lol Joe_K Guys I am very direct swetz lol vijay i am goona buy some apple stock tomorrow Joe_K and yes I can get on your nerves vijay LOL kent I couldn't tell Joe, lol Joe_K BUT I'll never leave you in a trench by yourself Gary_Fullett no we couldnt tell Gary_Fullett hey kent lol Gary_Fullett joe is LIke TO Gary_Fullett an ass Steve lol you don't get on my nerves joe.. swetz lol Gary_Fullett but a great player Gary_Fullett terel owens Gary_Fullett but its a complaiment Joe_K I will never leave any of you out there flapping Gary_Fullett because of the talent Gary_Fullett the talent in this room is unreal Joe_K Dead or Alive I'll bring you home Joe_K LOL Gary_Fullett belive me kent lol Kelley lol swetz I prefer alive Gary_Fullett joe it s a great quailty swetz ::smile Joe_K lol Gary_Fullett yoru approach can suck Steve and that's coming from a guy that cheated on his rifle qual lol Gary_Fullett but the apssion is there Peter one thing that Amos has repeated that sticks in my mind, we have so many eyes, that we can collectively beat these markets, once we are better organized Joe_K I didnt cheat swetz there goes Gary talking about my trading approach again Kelley just send me home w/ my running shoes on:) Joe_K I shot 39 kent apssion = passion swetz ::smile Joe_K Expert Joe_K lol Gary_Fullett amos Gary_Fullett will have alot more Steve lol Gary_Fullett and will do a class on p and f Joe_K ( ok cheated 1 year shot 34) Joe_K :) Gary_Fullett and a special class for newsletter people Gary_Fullett when i arrange it Steve at least there were 39 holes in the target lol Joe_K lol Steve M-16 nail Joe_K Ya know which one I messed up on Joe_K 50 meters Steve 50 meter Steve yep Joe_K Fast Freddy Steve always Joe_K lol Joe_K Was hitting 300m Joe_K missed 50 Joe_K lol Gary_Fullett okay se u all tommorw morning and if not on tuesday night if u dont come day time Gary_Fullett ty u all esp joe and swetz swetz cy Gary Gary_Fullett night all Gary_Fullett ty Gary_Fullett left.