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M.Martin joined............. pat wonder how Ohioans feel tonight about electing the Republican administration supporter with another 14 Ohio marines dead gary_fullett well unfortuantly viet ame all over again gary_fullett nam gary_fullett we will eb there for yrs pat they are saying now that we aren' there to win the war--just to create conditions whereby we can leave pat so at some point we will pull out without victory ............................ John joined............. pat hi John gary_fullett yep trying to save face but it wont work gary_fullett bullies to the world pat what a mess gary_fullett yep.... gary_fullett unfortualty lives being lost gary_fullett okay,, gary_fullett any questions? pat if grains rally overnight will that mean today was a spring? ............................ swetz joined............. gary_fullett well they are in a trr gary_fullett and went to some ice today gary_fullett hey swetz welcome back swetz Howdy good to be back gary_fullett so the graisn lok like a tr gary_fullett but the prob is gary_fullett it is getitng late in the yr gary_fullett where weather prem will be a factor gary_fullett okay gary_fullett any other questions ............................ GRainone joined............. GRainone Only thing LATER than me gettin' here, wuz me CHASIN' gold stocks today. gary_fullett markets wyckoff ect? GRainone born late. GRainone hope I stay late at the other end, I guess... Kelley n q's frank good luck GR gary_fullett okay gary_fullett we left with the 2 charts left gary_fullett copper gary_fullett copper.... GRainone thanks, frank....can use all the help I can get... gary_fullett weekly gary_fullett what do u see here? GRainone gud room. Lookin' at metals, all of which may be gettin'....red hot. gary_fullett thats why we are going ove rthem gary_fullett do u have the copper chart? rhondaS y pat y gary_fullett okay what do u see? GRainone I see something that recently went from 130 to 166 is what I see. gary_fullett okay gary_fullett but that was the past gary_fullett what do we see now? gary_fullett the range is smaller so far rhondaS no more resistance? gary_fullett there is alwasy resiatnce rhonda :) gary_fullett as well as support GRainone LIFE is resistance. rhondaS whoops! GRainone WELFARE is support. gary_fullett we have a reverse trend line rhondaS lol gary_fullett reverse trend line gary_fullett is highs connecting them selves sloping wise gary_fullett same is true with the lows being connected... gary_fullett i drew 2 sets of them gary_fullett sometimes i draw lines gary_fullett at differnt angles gary_fullett to see if i can see something GRainone I call that a CHANNEL. An UPCHANNEL. gary_fullett that may come into play GRainone and we're IN IT. And it's goin'...UP. gary_fullett well it is a channel pat last couple of highs have not reached upper channel gary_fullett a channle is one of the most effective ways to trade a market gary_fullett this is over bought oversold Kelley over bought gary_fullett so in tis case we are over bought gary_fullett this doesnt mean bearish necssairly pat and faltering within the channel gary_fullett but means overbought Kelley smaller ranges/ smaller volumes, near RTL= look for mky to take a break. Kelley mkt gary_fullett looks like it gary_fullett the trend is up Kelley not bearish at all gary_fullett so we must establish that gary_fullett do u see any ending action? ............................ snoot joined............. frank is this a markup? Kelley n gary_fullett mark up is usally started by a joc frank ok tks rhondaS mark up=gap up? gary_fullett many times yes burt not always rhondaS ok gary_fullett so gary_fullett we are at some rtl resiatnc ehere gary_fullett there has been no supply at this point gary_fullett and the breaks hav e been shakeouts swetz if you were long here would you take some profits here? gary_fullett i would or at least tighten stops gary_fullett to under the days lows GRainone A Wyckoff Approach To Future by Craig F. Schroeder GRainone The price markup phase results from the accumulation phase that precedes it and is proportional to that accumulation phase. Similarly, the price markdown phase is the result of the distribution phase that precedes it and is in proportion to the distribution phase. The price markup phase results from the accumulation phase that precedes it and is proportional to that accumulation phase. Similarly, the price markdown phase is the result of the distribution phase that precedes it and is in proportion to the distribution phase. The price markup phase results from the accumulation phase that precedes it and is proportional to that accumulation phase GRainone http://store.traders.com/-v10-c02-wyckoff-pdf.html GRainone whoops....got a bit repetitive there..I don't feel as strongly about the markup phase as that paste might indicate! ............................ Mari joined............. gary_fullett well ty GR gary_fullett i thougt u were a fast typist LOL swetz LOL Kelley lol Kelley Hi Mari Mari Hi Kelley gary_fullett so any question on copper Mari Sorry, late, had t o feed a friends cat. gary_fullett nee dto see supply gary_fullett or reaction fromthe rtl gary_fullett just 1 cat mari? Mari yes GRainone Mari just wants me to feel better about my LATE gold entry...chasin' PAL all day like a doggie after da mailman. Kelley Mari, we're just finishing weekly Copper, FYI gary_fullett just load them up let them go a week GRainone Gary is pragmatic. GRainone admirable. hs shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. that's what i did when my wife was out of town...(g) gary_fullett now lets break it down to the daily.... gary_fullett well cats can do that gary_fullett and dont have t walk em ............................ JT joined............. Mari me, i am animal free, just plant to take care of. LOL. gary_fullett daily copper gary_fullett what do u see ............................ junior joined............. Mari trendline hs good vol ends close to hi of day gary_fullett weed huh mari lol Mari no way. LOL. Kelley oh lord, lol hs lol gary_fullett i drew the support trend line rhondaS lol gary_fullett well for glacoma i mean gary_fullett medicinal hs but i see it too, mari, i really do... Kelley after retest in late June, mkt has been in strong uptrend, eom is upward gary_fullett so aftre drawing the support line frank strond market, but not so much volume gary_fullett i drew a channle resiatnce l;ine frank strong Kelley TL has not been violated and it appears that this mkt is in tight channel formation, w/ volume increasing steadily. gary_fullett correct gary_fullett so we are following this channel gary_fullett look at the high volume gary_fullett mid june gary_fullett see this gary_fullett this was a washout gary_fullett as prices went back up gary_fullett imedialty GRainone maybe for next week we can slip in a chart on GOLD....by then we will know if today's MASSIVELY EXPLOSIVE MOVE in gold stocks was...whatever it was. ............................ kent joined............. gary_fullett so we have a stropng market GRainone Copper is key, however....ECONOMICALLY. Not Wyckoff chart idea....but idea. So copper chart not to be overlooked at ALL. gary_fullett u r so pretty gary_fullett the chart gary_fullett that channel chart frank what's the high on monthly, or all time high? gary_fullett i think 176 gary_fullett not sure Kelley I think we're at the high frank ty ............................ swetz left............. frank then we look for BC? frank or supply frank or COB ............................ swetz joined............. gary_fullett so gary_fullett yes maybe frank rhondaS cob? Kelley change of behavior Kelley = cob rhondaS oh i wrote that down yesterday Sorry frank or 1909 pennies Kelley :) gary_fullett okay gary_fullett any q on copper gary_fullett okay wyckoff principles,,,, gary_fullett but first any q on any charst we did Kelley yes Kelley are we going to go over DX chart? ............................ Dick left............. gary_fullett well it wa sopposite of the euro chart gary_fullett i just sen it to see the reverse ............................ Dick joined............. Kelley I see Gary no problem gary_fullett i will trry to go over it tonight if i get time gary_fullett otherwise i can do it tommorw Kelley ok good, ty gary_fullett i want to talk on changes of behavior gary_fullett and what we lok for gary_fullett there are major nes as well as minor ones... gary_fullett a major one would be a sc or bc gary_fullett seling cliamx or buying cliamx GRainone DX is big, re gold. gary_fullett so.... gary_fullett minor ones gary_fullett wuld incluse gary_fullett sot gary_fullett okay gary_fullett some cob gary_fullett are trned changingbut many are just intepting the trned temporily gary_fullett so gary_fullett we have the 3 principles gary_fullett 1 effort vs resuly ............................ M.Martin left............. ............................ John left............. gary_fullett cause vs effect gary_fullett demand vs supply ............................ kent left............. ............................ kent joined............. gary_fullett all markets follow these 3 gary_fullett so when price doesnt match volume gary_fullett this is potietial red flag gary_fullett or a poosibel cob gary_fullett now there is a samll nuince gary_fullett with absorption gary_fullett at reaistnce before a amrket does higher gary_fullett and lack of demand gary_fullett understand so far? rhondaS y swetz y GRainone in time frames, gary...how LONG can price not match volume for? In other words....for how many DAYS, or weeks, or hours...can things stay OUT of whack? gary_fullett okay,,,, gary_fullett well good gary_fullett q gary_fullett and the answer is not known GRainone As John Meynard Keynes observed..."Markets can remain irrattional far longer than the specualator can remain solvent..." gary_fullett example if u get an event gary_fullett like 9 /11 gary_fullett it can last for days gary_fullett or like england an hour ............................ aw joined............. GRainone Heck...in stocks, 9/11 was one of the better buys of the past 50 years 5 days after the event....u bot on 9/21, if u were real smart. gary_fullett well thats a great quote GRainone ya..England an hour..that was the last buy in stocks..7/7. GRainone 05 gary_fullett so its hard to detemine gary_fullett but by watching action GRainone Well, the good news is, they keep bombing, so I keep getting to practice buying blood in the streets, right? gary_fullett u can weed it out gary_fullett and see what is truely happening GRainone Or maybe I'm not supposed to look at it that way...idiot. GRainone me. gary_fullett the market talks to u we must listen GRainone anyway, it was Nathan Rothschild's idea to manipulate mkts. in time of crisis in 1815. I DID NOT start the practive. GRainone practice. gary_fullett so.. gary_fullett we are always judging the markets for its action and reaction gary_fullett and we are siing if the amrket balances out.... gary_fullett so if the amrket is going higher gary_fullett we know the trend.... gary_fullett so we should initate most of the trades from the long side gary_fullett right? swetz yep gary_fullett okay Mari buy strength, sell weakness gary_fullett so as long as the market doesnt run out of demand gary_fullett or supply enters gary_fullett wjhat will the amrket continue to do? gary_fullett market? swetz go up gary_fullett so far so good gary_fullett any questions? gary_fullett all understand? gary_fullett correct mari Mari no questions hs n gary_fullett good.... gary_fullett so we buy breaks gary_fullett what market is a classic exampl of ths now? hs snp gary_fullett right gary_fullett we are grinding up gary_fullett and no supply gary_fullett demand has been decent so far not great..... gary_fullett but has there been supply? gary_fullett as demand has prove intself... ............................ Prash joined............. ............................ Peter joined............. gary_fullett so it would be supply gary_fullett that would be needed to turn lower JT lots of software charts trending up gary_fullett example JT? ............................ Dick left............. JT Borland gary_fullett is that a commodity.? gary_fullett whats borland? swetz MSFT trending up since April 1 GRainone market with BIG sign of strength and BIG demand today....XAU, HUI, ASA, etc. Or my PAL. JT commenting on why the mkt showing stregth gary_fullett whats borland? Peter Borland is a software developer swetz Borland Software GRainone gold stocks were pretty CLASSIC WYCKOFF WAVE action today, imho....fit the pattern on the website about like an overlay. swetz BORL gary_fullett ohh so alot of his stocks have turned up? swetz lol GRainone Borland was BIG back in the day. BIG. A leader....THE leader...did they do QUATTRO spreadsheet? Pre Windows? JT nasdaq is peeking at 52 week high cause of software gary_fullett ahh borland is a stock and has turned bullish? gary_fullett do u think the nasdaw is bullish? swetz I think BORL still bearish JT opps, make that looked bullish, they must of reported yesterday Peter GR they did a lot of pre Windows SW,, some rane on CPM as I recall gary_fullett well the high in qqqq i think is liek 120 GRainone Borland daily is between selling climax and Secondary Test...and may sign of strenght...but it did not go up since May, while everyting else was bettr than sliced bread..so something is not right there. gary_fullett we are at 41 today GRainone I was the LAST PERSON to buy QQQ at over 86. Check Guiness book. I"m in there. 10/22/00, I think it was. swetz lol GRainone I sold at 40 back in 2001. ............................ Peter left............. GRainone I shud have held, I gess... gary_fullett whast the high in borland? gary_fullett all time? GRainone only 86 on BORL. GRainone 1992. Told ya' it was big back in the day. ............................ Peter joined............. JT MSFT been strong too gary_fullett right gary_fullett so how can a stock at 6.50 GRainone I wonder who bo tthe top tick in '92? And if they still hold. gary_fullett be bullish when the high was 86 GRainone LOL! GRainone gaRY! GRainone like I said..he's...PRAGMATIC! gary_fullett what do u se ein msft gary_fullett it is 37 gary_fullett the high was 55 gary_fullett 27 i means JT something has to lead the market, it just does'nt drift up by itself ............................ GRainone left............. ............................ GRainone joined............. gary_fullett please pleas eplease.... gary_fullett u r looking at sotcks Peter MSFT had a split GRainone funny.... gary_fullett that have had weakness gary_fullett and now u are rallying gary_fullett in a amrket that has been rallying GRainone "weaknss"....politically correct there. swetz sign of strength on MSFT gary_fullett but the market broke faster than its rallying gary_fullett when peter/ gary_fullett so its not 27? gary_fullett this is imp gary_fullett because it is talking about the "perceptive of the amrket: gary_fullett the perception gary_fullett how can a \stock at 6 be bullish when the high wa s86? gary_fullett what is msft lows? GRainone Gary is RIGHT, imho.....gotta go with the RS and what's happening now. Real key...tells u WHERE to look in mkt...and WHEN. Peter it is, but was 55 at one point and then they split 2 for 1 GRainone that's HOW the mkt. tells, in fact. gary_fullett i just want u to keep it all in perspective.,,, gary_fullett thats all gary_fullett so the amrket is at it s highs peter gary_fullett that 2 for 1 spilt gary_fullett would make the stock 55 now? Peter yes probably Peter not tracking it currently gary_fullett so u are saying gary_fullett thast msft is at all time hihs? gary_fullett highs? Peter maybe just a retest of the high gary_fullett hmmm dont se that on my chart bt possibly GRainone ya...MSFT high is now 53, split adjusted. gary_fullett well if msft gary_fullett is at all time highs Peter maybe charts have been adjusted gary_fullett and the nasdaq ia way off its highs gary_fullett msft still a nasadaq stock? GRainone http://www.StockSharePublishing.com/ChartLib/MSFT_08_03_22_39_1123123174.png gary_fullett or nyse? Peter in fact, likely since stock slits are not uncommon JT I think listed on both Peter splits gary_fullett how can they be listed on both? swetz $54 is all-time high in December 1999 GRainone http://www.StockSharePublishing.com/ChartLib/MSFT_08_03_22_40_1123123210.png Peter yes I think they are on both, you can buy & sell on either exchange swetz MSFT is $27 now GRainone MSFT is NAZ stock. GRainone 2 7.50 on MSFT, however...is trading range from 2002. I recommend Jan 2008 LEAPS on MSFT...buy the $30 strike in the money at $5.70. Peter many software companies were at their highs in Dec 1999 GRainone u won't be sorry, but NO GUARANTEE issued here. JT ok we got sidetracked there with my comment. Lets get back on track, please continue Gary swetz on MSFT can draw a nice demand line from July 2002 low Peter I remeber that time very well and I'm in the sw industry, may people though the NASD was going up forever :) then there was the big BC! gary_fullett well its a good point jt swetz evertime MSFT hits this line it immediately moves up gary_fullett u broughtup something interesting gary_fullett its about perception gary_fullett example gary_fullett if a stock like this borland gary_fullett seems to be making abottom gary_fullett and on the daily looks like possible accumaultion GRainone agree that on BORL, gary.... gary_fullett but whats imp perspective is where the stock has come feom gary_fullett im not picking on thsi stock gary_fullett but in general gary_fullett naw GRainone P-E-R-C-E-P-T-I-O-N. key word. gary_fullett now conversly gary_fullett if gary_fullett msft gary_fullett is at its highs JT well tech earnings have been downgraded so many times, that right now any earnings beggning to "beat expectations". so this rally might be caused by folks buying these "upgrades" gary_fullett and the nasdaq is way off its highs Peter Borland has been in the dumps, many of their sw available discounted for prices like $9.99 gary_fullett and it is a nasdaq s\tock gary_fullett what doe shris say about the stock? gary_fullett does this swetz Great RELative STrength JT leader? Peter maybe in very long term reacumulation JT INTC and MSFT account for a nice % of the NASDAQ. if these 2 sneeze the mkt moves in the direction of the sneeze gary_fullett well if msft is so strong why ios the nasdaq so weak? GRainone MSFT is 14% of QQQQ, I believe, at present. gary_fullett what is intc? gary_fullett intel JT Nasdaq is near 52 week high, how can that be weak? Peter Intel gary_fullett well look at the monthly chart JT !!!!! how is that strnghth gary_fullett i know intel gary_fullett whats the high of intel Peter monthly looks like accum, much line the USD did in Jan 05 JT I think the nasdaq is showing remarkable streghth, if you discount the irrational valuations of 99-2000 gary_fullett u cant discount that JT gary_fullett thats the point gary_fullett there was real money lost and sold swetz But Gary wouldnt you agree that accumulation will start at low levels so a stock can have strength yet still be far away from all-time high? JT keeping in mind that a lot of the companies that provided much of the nasdaq highs were frivoulous and now mostly all ut of business gary_fullett price is what people precive as proper value swetz Transfer of risk is in strong hands gary_fullett thats possible swetz gary_fullett BUT gary_fullett so if thats the case JT gary_fullett and they are out of biz gary_fullett and dewlisted gary_fullett why is the monthlky nasdaq so far away the highs? gary_fullett will u all agree that we had a bc or buying climax in the nadadaq in 2000? swetz yes gary_fullett any one say no? Peter because there was a BC and accumulatio onslu started just over 2 years ago gary_fullett woah peter gary_fullett if we had a bc gary_fullett and this was on the monthly chart right? Peter I don't expect a BC an a retest of the highs within 5 years, do you? gary_fullett hmm prob nopt gary_fullett but doesnt have to be a retets at all gary_fullett so if we had a BC gary_fullett and then we had a sow Peter Gold and solver had BCs in the 70s or early 80s... gary_fullett sign of weakenss and market down gary_fullett are u now saying that after we went down and broke gary_fullett that we started accumaution? Peter sugar also back then...sugar was 4500, filally 1000 after 20 years, is this bullish or bearish? GRainone NAZ today looks ALOT like DJIA in 1935, actually.... gary_fullett and this sos sign of strenghth on the dailies is part of this? GRainone but world is not same as 1935 at all. gary_fullett much differnt with sugar gary_fullett it will do it faster GRainone at the moment, world is better, actually.... gary_fullett due to it being a commdty that sued swetz yeah Rainone women wear shorter skirts now thank goodness lol JT my thinking is this is a short term move up in a longer term bear market gary_fullett woo hoo gary_fullett ahh okay JT gary_fullett now i would agree :) gary_fullett point being gary_fullett we had a MAJOR gary_fullett BC in nasdaq Peter my sugar montly goes back to 1980, was a BC at over 45.00 gary_fullett u cant GO from a BC gary_fullett 5 yrs ago gary_fullett and now undergo acculation gary_fullett on a monrthly chart swetz sorry Gary why not? JT my thinking is nas 2500 then we start the grind down from 2006 gary_fullett the mney lost and made in the 1990;s gary_fullett wa sunprescented gary_fullett because u dont have cause sweta Peter acvtually to be precice, sugar BC was 44.80 Nov 1980 gary_fullett dont expect stocks to have a major up gary_fullett for many yrs gary_fullett what u saw in the 80's and 90;s gary_fullett was a onc ein the lifetime thingy gary_fullett so i expect those mnthly highs gary_fullett in the nasdaq Peter may be, and 44.80 sugar may not happen again in my lifetime either :) gary_fullett to be the highs for many many yrs gary_fullett like 10-15 GRainone agree with Gary...as was decline of 2000-2002. Once every 30 to 70 years maybe...1932, 1974, etc. gary_fullett look at trhe history f the sotck market gary_fullett stock GRainone Now it's a "market of stocks".....take 'em one at a time, cycles, etc... gary_fullett this doesnt happen but 1 time in a life time gary_fullett what u ahd was the .com as well as puter infleunce gary_fullett and many inventions gary_fullett u will need an event gary_fullett to become bullish again gary_fullett this is avery imp gary_fullett sorry to digress fom the cob talk gary_fullett but very imp swetz I agree with NASDAQ highs wont be seen in 10-15 years but QQQQ have made higher swing highs and lows on monthly chart since October 2002 GRainone gud digression, imho....good to step back and SEE THE FOREST from the trees. JT GR what do you think about bond and 5 year note specifically? gary_fullett now if u r loking at dily and wekly swings gary_fullett yes they are quite tradable gary_fullett but that monthly bc was huge GRainone I'm NOT SURE Bond, JT. In a range for now. gary_fullett and damaged that market for yrs gary_fullett they are complety 2 different insstruments swetz as long as QQQQ is able to do this why not stay long until see COB? gary_fullett they dont correalte that much gary_fullett well it depndds on th time frame swetz gary_fullett u can go with daily and weekly strnghthbut I would sell monthly resiatnce GRainone You know, Gary...re "damaged" market on NAZ...there's ANOTHER perspective issue here. The pullback or crash or whatever from 2000 has only RETURNED NAZ to it's LONG TERM regression line from inception in the early 70's. The Y2K bubble was blow off phase of 20 year Wintel bull mkt. and got 4 std. deviations over regression line....Now, we're back where we outta be, basically... swetz gary do you agree that QQQQ has made monthly higher swing highs andn higher swing lows since October 2002? gary_fullett no gary_fullett i wouldnt Peter qqqq is approaching important monthly creek that it hasn't yested since accum began, I'm not sure I'd want to stay long at this creek the first time tested gary_fullett I think we have moved up from the lows gary_fullett why do i say this? gary_fullett because the low was like 20 gary_fullett in 2002 gary_fullett right? gary_fullett its all perspective swetz yes ............................ gary_fullett left............. ............................ gary joined............. gary sorry gary so we made a low at 20.00 gary now we are at 40 gary the high wa s120 swetz Gary I think this month is very important in QQQQ because you could have a possible UT on monthly chart gary and it took 3 yrs to get form 20 to 40 Peter Oct 2002 accum began gary so i dont think this si strignth swetz and this is the 4th month of rally after a 4 month decline gary why accumuaiton gary why not a bear rally? swetz could easily be bear rally gary if i am shrt the qqqq form 85 gary do i care if we are at 40? Peter ok cound be I guess, no SC, looks like sot type bottom gary it could be BUT will atke along time GRainone I was long QQQQ from 85. I KNEW I had done somethign wrong...it was....keyboard error. gary it could be the start of a bulish market kent lol gary BUT,, will take time gary dont get so excited by these rallies swetz who is short from 85 CM would probably have covered in the 20-25 area gary its relatrive to where we have been Kelley red Gary Peter I agree Gary, at this creek I would take profits, and wait to see reaction or at least trail a stop at creek gary please time frames gary and perpective gary this is imp.... Kelley thanks man Kelley :) gary u went from a bullish market gary then a major BC gary so u wiped out for 2 yrs gary and u think accmulation lng term gary NO way gary maybe agfter 10 yrs gary not 3 yrs gary from 2002 gary u mean u have a bc gary in 2000 gary trhen a sc in 2002 gary then amrke up now gary doesnt rwork this way gary this is VERY VERY IMP rhondaS sot? i cannot find it swetz but gary why not have monstrous Trading Range between 2000 high and 2002 low that goes on for 15 years like in the 1970s gary this is why many think the trned has changed get hirt because they are buying the first rallywith litle or no cause gary trying to picjk the bototm kent shortening of thrust Kelley Shortening of thrust Rhonda Kelley = sot gary i think u will swetyz gary a alrge tr rhondaS thank you all gary thats why i am not excited about this rally kent yw gary nadaq swetz gn Rhonda gary do u all underatynd? gary u cant go from a BC gary then a sc gary then amrket up aagin GRainone I UNDERSTAND! Kelley u r welcome Rhonda gary Unless this was a washout gary and it wasnt gary because u havent retraced gary i cant strss how imp this is gary thats why i dropped the tpic gary i will cntinue this tommorw gary as it is very vry imp rhondaS swetz i follow your chat on ibd gary becaus eit deals with trends Peter agree just looks like an accum tr to me about to do the first real test of creek swetz cool Rhonda gary and u lose perpectivebecause u lok at trhe daily gary and the monthly trend is down rhondaS swetz i cam here last week after i read it on the thread gary so u are buying a daily up gary with a monthly down gary so u must liquate at resdiatnce gary undertand? kent all the gurus said the s n p was going down from the 9/11 lows, yet it has basically been grinding up ever since, making top pickers pay up for the most part, very similar gary peter Jt ect? Peter I guess it depends if there was a sc or bottom, an the uptrend just started gary well at best a TR gary peter Kelley time frame sequence again. so important! gary not an uptrned to me gary maybe a daily up Peter I think a TR, that's what I see gary and possibly at times a wekely one gary but defintly not momthly swetz could get JOC over December 2004 QQQQ monthly high Peter no cause swetz not saying will happen but don't you have to consider the possibility gary okay any questions? i will continue this tommorw along wiht other stuff gary also the day class starts at 7 am cst gary here on this site gary all free hs GREAT... gary i sent out alot of cd roms to\day gary so they should be arriving within a few days swetz cool did not know about morning class gary it is a very imp topic frank thanks Gary ............................ frank left............. gary and i want u to know itbecause it deals with trneds kent great stuff, as usual gary gary which are imp junior which cd-roms? gary as well as perpective swetz very good discussion gary swetz good night guys and ladies gary write kelly at knorris@ltg-trading.com gary cd roms on wyckoff gary they are wonderful rhondaS swetz, thanks so much for all you have done hs thanks v. much gary kent Hank Pruden and Wyckoff SMI cd's junior ok, i will do that gary see many of u tommorw morning rhondaS gary thanks a million...night all gary she doesnt bite Kelley lol ............................ rhondaS left............. gary good night all see u all tmmorw ............................ kent left............. Kelley GN gary too be contiunued gary niht all hs gn ............................ gary left.............