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<dpr> maybe gary was not at beginners session<BR>
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<gary fullett> hey<BR>
<amos> hi<BR>
<gary fullett> I couldnt send out charts today<BR>
<amos> that is ok<BR>
<gary fullett> the fax to the computer is not conecting<BR>
<fran> but I had trouble gettingin<BR>
<amos> how are you and father?<BR>
<fran> hacing trouble typing too....LOL<BR>
<gary fullett> I know alot of people have had a hard time connecting to the site still<BR>
<fran> having<BR>
<mrj> lol<BR>
<dpr> jack and i waited for about 10 minutes but no one else showed to we left<BR>
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<gary fullett> my father has  a prostate problrem<BR>
User [fibo /206.104.30.33] joined forum on Wed May 10 12:58:42 EDT 2000<BR>
<fran> hi fibo<BR>
<amos> Sorry for missing last nite<BR>
<gary fullett> and will see  doctor on Monday<BR>
<mrj> hi fibo jack<BR>
<gary fullett> thats okay<BR>
<fran> no charts fibo<BR>
<fibo> hello everyone<BR>
<Jack> hello<BR>
<fibo> :-(<BR>
<dpr> hi<BR>
<gary fullett> kellys mom has cancer just found out today<BR>
User [davep /24.147.119.114] joined forum on Wed May 10 12:59:17 EDT 2000<BR>
<fran> did you have trouble getting in?<BR>
<mrj> hey dave<BR>
<fibo> hi davep<BR>
<fran> hoi dave<BR>
<gary fullett> lung canncer but it will be treated with cheomo thearpy<BR>
<amos> oopps, sorry<BR>
<amos> she smokes?<BR>
<dpr> not tonight<BR>
<gary fullett> did u talk with that guy ed<BR>
<gary fullett> what do u think>?<BR>
<dpr> could not get in last night<BR>
<gary fullett> of her smoking?<BR>
<davep> hi mrj...hi fibo....I had trouble getting in, 3 tries<Enter Text Here><BR>
<fran> me too dave<BR>
<amos> yes, I am not sure what he wants, it is my turn to write him, tmw.<BR>
<gary fullett> yes she smokes<BR>
<fibo> gary must be having trouble too<BR>
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<fran> no one in beginners class<BR>
<mrj> hi eric<BR>
<fran> hi eric<BR>
<fibo> hi eric<BR>
<davep> hi eric<BR>
<amos> but kelly does not right?<BR>
<gary fullett> he wants to do lots of stuff with P and f<BR>
<eric> Hi everyone<BR>
<gary fullett> yes she does<BR>
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<Jack> I tried to be there in beginers<BR>
<gary fullett> I am trying to get her to stop<BR>
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<gary fullett> my Rabbis son<BR>
<mrj> wb<BR>
<gary fullett> who is 28 yrs old<BR>
<gary fullett> just died<BR>
<gary fullett> he had jaw surgery<BR>
<fran> got a problem<BR>
<gary fullett> and  he choked to death because they didnt clear his airway<BR>
<gary fullett> very very orthodox<BR>
<gary fullett> his mom called the hosipital<BR>
<gary fullett> to seehow he was  doing<BR>
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<fran> fibo......good day...my hummers came in today<BR>
<amos> hi lavon<BR>
<lavona> Hello Amos<BR>
<lavona> What has happened just us?<BR>
<fibo> hummers?<BR>
<fran> hummingbirds<BR>
<fibo> oh great!<BR>
<fran> they arrived today<BR>
<amos> Gary was here a moment ago and got bummped off, must be trouble with net<BR>
<fran> had feeders out for a week now<BR>
<mrj> I thought you meant your winners<BR>
<fibo> great to watch them<BR>
<fran> they are winners mrj<BR>
<Jack><BR>
<mrj> yes they are<BR>
<lavona> Mrj told me that you gave them the numbers to use with each commonidty for P & F<BR>
<lavona>  Would you mind posting the #"s<BR>
<fibo> do they stay around there fran?<BR>
<fran> from May until oct<BR>
<amos> I do not remember, but I may have mentioned.... I am not publishing much about P&F because<BR>
<fibo> how neat<BR>
<davep><BR>
<fran> usually gett several....have four feeders out<BR>
<amos> it is too valuable, but since you asked-- I might....I am trying to study what<BR>
<fibo> poor things would have blown away here today<BR>
<amos> is availiable on the air and see if I want to give too many "secrets" away...but I think it is silly to<BR>
<fibo> most of April & may has been wind<BR>
<amos> keep things private--since just knowing them is NOT going to make you money..<BR>
<fibo> that is good<BR>
<fran> AMEN<BR>
<amos> SO I might soon.<BR>
<fibo> we run outside and get things done on the still days<BR>
<fran> know what you mean<BR>
<lavona> I ask 3 of the people who come to this chat if I could read their notes and not one had any notes<BR>
<Jack><BR>
<fibo> get all the corn planted?<BR>
<lavona> You are 100% right  must do the work<BR>
<amos> what do you mean by notes? You can read the archives, and do a search for key terms<BR>
<fran> yes...but 300 acres of beans to go....<BR>
<fran> all the corn is up now<BR>
<fibo> oh<BR>
<mrj><BR>
<fibo> i bet it looks good after the rain<BR>
<fibo> grains looked good today<BR>
<lavona> The week that you gave this information and the rest of the week are unavaiilbe<BR>
<fran> yes....some under water though<BR>
<amos> which week was that?<BR>
<fran> yes they did<BR>
<lavona>  I ask Gary  about it said it would be corrected son<BR>
<lavona> last week<BR>
<fibo> corn down 1.75 now and wheat down 1.50 beans down 2.75<BR>
<fran> depends on how long it stays.....72 hours usually the limit<BR>
<lavona> Do you know Mr Davis<BR>
<amos> I did not give P&F info last week, as I can remember.<BR>
<fibo> it will probably dry out by then hopefully<BR>
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<fibo> or amos<BR>
<lavona> that you go begging<BR>
<fran> they sure have a bad time with their server<BR>
<fibo> yes<BR>
<davep><BR>
<amos> The archives are accurate log of every word said in class.<BR>
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<eric><BR>
<fran> lots of problems with aol recently<BR>
<fibo> we are in less populated area than Chicago i guess<BR>
<amos> I did not look this Mr Davis, from your letter.<BR>
<fran> us too<BR>
<lavona> I have always used fibonacci ratios but I found a book on P & F  so am interested<BR>
<amos> I have some faint memory, but off hand I do not remember him.<BR>
<fran> once in a while I will have to try several times to get on<BR>
<lavona>  Apr 26 this the last log<BR>
<amos> P&f depends on good data base,<BR>
<lavona> is the last log<BR>
<fran> you are right eric...read horror stories about them<BR>
<fibo> yes<BR>
<amos> The construction of P&F is rather simple. ANd the main thing is to connect it with<BR>
<amos> WYckoff definitions.<BR>
<mrj> broke resistance JOC<BR>
<fibo> crb took out that high<BR>
<lavona>  k<BR>
<fibo> and closed on its high<BR>
<fran> that is good<BR>
<mrj> yes good sign<BR>
<amos> COunting with P&F is good if you look at logical areas of accumulation or distribution.<BR>
<lavona> I could see how you would use it with Wyckoff<BR>
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<amos> Otherwise it can be as random as any other chart.<BR>
<fibo> hello Frank<BR>
<fran> hi frank<BR>
<mrj> hey frank<BR>
<lavona> it makes the accumulation stand out<BR>
<davep> hi frank<BR>
<fran> we cleaned catch basins all day just about<BR>
<amos> In WYckoff, it is a LAW. THe law of Cause And Effect--the bigger the cause....the<BR>
<amos> bigger the effect and the count on the PF chart is a good measure of the cause.<BR>
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<Frank> hi fibo mr j dave fran, sorry I am late been a long day<BR>
<lavona> welcome<BR>
<fran> wb jeff<BR>
<fran> frank, you get those big rains?<BR>
<rbnca> thanks whats up?<BR>
<amos> as they say in our lingo--cotoon<BR>
<Frank> one in a quarter inches in two days<BR>
<amos> cotton<BR>
<fran> missed the 14 inches....huh<BR>
<rbnca> and grains<BR>
<fibo> herd<BR>
<lavona> ProphetCharts has PF for stocks (free) so Have been trying to use it with Nasq 100<BR>
<Frank> sure could tell it<BR>
<fibo> what is the weather there now frank?<BR>
<amos> is there a problem getting on this site? Gary was bumped off and disappeared into<BR>
<amos> the long dark nite.<BR>
<Frank> would not have to sell whole thing just thin them more than I wish<BR>
<amos> what is the link, lavon?<BR>
<rbnca> I had trouble last night none tonight<BR>
<rbnca><BR>
<fibo> i see<BR>
<lavona> min<BR>
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<fibo> fran what is your forecast now?<BR>
<Frank> warm and muggy did not get a forcaste today<BR>
<fibo> wb Jeff<BR>
<mrj><BR>
<fran> jeff.....say a prayer<BR>
<amos> waiting, patiently.<BR>
<Jeff Z.> thanks fibo.  still no gary?<BR>
<mrj> :)<BR>
<fibo> stilll no gary<BR>
<Jeff Z.> a prayer for what fran?<BR>
<fran> your computer acting up?<BR>
<rbnca> for?<BR>
<amos> lavon is getting a link to Prophet charts.<BR>
<Frank> gosh perhaps we can learn something from each other<BR>
<davep><BR>
<amos> for P&F.<BR>
<Jeff Z.> nope, I had to take my son out of the tub and my chat connection timed out!<BR>
<fran> good for you jeff<BR>
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<rbnca> I get it . min is minute. LA?<BR>
<amos> either this or Minute Made Orange Juice.<BR>
<fibo> enjoy him until he gets the keys to the car Jeff :-)<BR>
<Jeff Z.> lol<BR>
<rbnca> So what about OJ amos?<BR>
<amos> I think he was guilty<BR>
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<fran> busy age<BR>
<Frank> u must be young Jeff<BR>
<fibo> they grow up so fast..especially when they start school<BR>
<lavona> www.stockcharts.com<BR>
<mrj> goes by quickly jeff<BR>
<lavona> is this working<BR>
<lavona> y<BR>
<amos> Already pasted it to WORD.<BR>
<mrj> lol<BR>
<fran> mrj...you got kids?<BR>
<mrj> three<BR>
<fran> great<BR>
<fran> frank?<BR>
<amos> Since you came back so easily, I assume Gary does not WANT to come back.<BR>
<lavona> think you will like the charts there<BR>
<fran> eric?<BR>
<Frank> I saw a groupe of teenage girls sitting around smoking today and I wish it was against the law for them<BR>
<eric> two<BR>
<amos> I will check shortly!<BR>
<fibo> two here<BR>
<fran> two here<BR>
<Frank> too smoke as minors and the police would pick them up<BR>
<fibo> true Jeff<BR>
<amos> SUch as?<BR>
<amos> The big question is whether P&F chart is plotted from the intrad day or not.<BR>
<lavona> my email  from stockcharts  &<BR>
<fibo> better make lots of money trading now Jeff..that college is expensive :-)<BR>
<amos> SOme services print is off the daily--and that is silly...the whole idea is to chart<BR>
<fran> got that right fibo<BR>
<lavona> 6 mos, to 5 yrs<BR>
<amos> the actual battle between supply and demand and intrady can be a very important part of it.<BR>
<fibo> it went up every semister that mine were in<BR>
<fran> but for our kids , it was worth every penny<BR>
<fibo> great Jeff<BR>
<fibo> here too fran..<BR>
<amos> I will check.<BR>
<mrj><BR>
<fibo> mrj are yours all grown?<BR>
<Frank> let them go to the service and earn it themself<BR>
<lavona> It is free of a short time<BR>
<lavona> for<BR>
<amos> Aha, that makes sense, if they want to charrge for intraday--that is more reasonable.<BR>
<lavona> It is a new site and they are adding to it all the time found it about 6 weeks ago<BR>
<davep> have gary on line<BR>
<fibo> my son did go to the Navy then got his finance degree after<BR>
<eric><BR>
<amos> Folks, if we are not getting more people, do you mind if I  go back to sleep? I had a very long day--It was Israel Independence day--had a march and too many lunches....?<BR>
<lavona> Also has candlestick on daily<BR>
<mrj> es fibo went to get ice cream<BR>
<mrj> yes<BR>
<lavona>  good night Amos you to need rest<BR>
<amos> I do not use candle sticks but<BR>
<fran> what kind mrj?<BR>
<fibo> did you bring enough for us mrj?<BR>
<mrj> vamilla<BR>
<amos> iif you use them and think they are useful--by all means do it adn share wiht us<BR>
<rbnca> Thas fine amos, I like commodities much better anyway<BR>
<rbnca><BR>
<rbnca><BR>
<mrj> vanilla<BR>
<fibo> hmmmmm<BR>
<rbnca> seeya<BR>
<rbnca><BR>
<mrj> pretty good<BR>
<Frank> I was in the military hospital at fort wood , and this sgt was talking about having a Bs in med science<BR>
<amos> ok guys nite...<BR>
<lavona> nite<BR>
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<lavona>  are you afarmer<BR>
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<mrj> yes fibo more than enough for all<BR>
<Frank> when i was in there was not enough time too do that<BR>
<fibo> lol@mrj<BR>
<davep> fibo my oldest got his degree while enlisted in navy also<BR>
<mrj> :)<BR>
<fibo> great.  mine went on to college after he got out of the navy<BR>
<davep> mine did it on weekends; just got his mba in night school<BR>
<fibo> daughter has JD degree and LLM masters of Health Law Degree<BR>
<fibo> great dave.. what is great is to have them off the payroll :-)<BR>
<eric> LLM?<BR>
<fibo> she is an attorney with a LLM which is a Masters of Law<BR>
<fibo> true mrj<BR>
<Frank> there are a lot of women attorneys now<BR>
<davep> jd=juris doctor; llm maybe=master of legal letters?<BR>
<mrj> lol<BR>
<fran> LOL<BR>
<fibo> mabye so dave :-)<BR>
<fibo> only trouble is they grow up and move way off<BR>
<fran> yep<BR>
<Frank> trading is more interesting than being a lawyer<BR>
<mrj> fibo are you still friendly toward corn<BR>
<fibo> it held support this morning and jumped across the creek<BR>
<Frank> flew<BR>
<mrj> looks good to me<BR>
<fibo> it ran up to resistance and is down some tonite but it may just be a retest of creek.<BR>
<fibo> wheat & beans did the same thing.<BR>
<fibo> on just using the daily data on the grains and not the night session corn had an island bottom<BR>
<Frank> there is a government report out friday, so i will watch this week<BR>
<fibo> yes Fri morning at 7:30<BR>
<mrj> lots of expectations of a big down day on Friday<BR>
<fibo> what is your p&f saying fran?<BR>
<fran> up<BR>
<Frank> I am unable too watch the markets tomarrow, but i will friday<BR>
<fibo> good!<BR>
<mrj> no specific numbers  just from reading the forums<BR>
<fran> trendlines still holding<BR>
<fibo> that is good for bulls when everyone is negative<BR>
<fibo> yes they are<BR>
<mrj> yes :)<BR>
<fibo> lots of farmers around here ran and cash contracted their corn at 240 & 250 already<BR>
<fibo> going by what happened the last 2 years..<BR>
<mrj> most of those who are negative aere citing fundamentals and weather<BR>
<fibo> ?<BR>
<fibo> oh i see<BR>
<eric> Fibo, do you use fibonacci ratios on time too, or just prices?<BR>
<fibo> look at them some on time ..actually like number of days up or down, etc.<BR>
<davep><BR>
<fibo> Fran hubby says you can correct last years mistake this year by not cash contracting too early  and being long the board<BR>
<fran> where would you start hedging fibo?<BR>
<fibo> would start at a little better than break even and then immediately buy calls to catch the upmove<BR>
<fibo> fran the banks here are forcing them to cash contract<BR>
<fran> our cash for fall is 30 under dec...terrible<BR>
<fibo> that is how we did it when we used to farm<BR>
<fibo> if break even is 2.00 that would be 2.30<BR>
<fibo> as of today.<BR>
<fibo> i agree that basis is terrible<BR>
<fibo> it is only 10 to 12 here<BR>
<fibo> or hold your cash and buy puts to protect your downside<BR>
<fibo> you can roll them up as the market goes up<BR>
<fibo> it would?<BR>
<fran> year like this puts seems the way to go<BR>
<fibo> yes.<BR>
<eric> dp contracts?<BR>
<davep><BR>
<fran> sounds good fibo<BR>
<eric> thanks<BR>
<Frank> fibo do u use gann trend lines?<BR>
<fibo> no Frank<BR>
<fibo> i use husbands "hybrid" trend lines :-)<BR>
<Frank> do use trend lines at all Fibo?, channels?<BR>
<fibo> trend lines are made by the market..we just draw them in to make them visible<BR>
<Frank> yes<BR>
<mrj><BR>
<fran> speaking of gann trendlines....1x1 down from july high in 1996 0f 3.89 has resistance at 2.96....another one at  2.85<BR>
<Frank> a channels are trend lines on high prices and on the low prices<BR>
<fibo> not<BR>
<fibo> all<BR>
<fibo> that<BR>
<Frank> you buy if the bottom is penetrated and sell if the top is penetrated<BR>
<fibo> much<BR>
<fibo> frank<BR>
<fran> fibo...you got the hiccups?<BR>
<mrj> thinking same thing fran<BR>
<fibo> lol<BR>
<davep> :-)<BR>
<fibo> hubby wrote that.<BR>
<fran> figures<BR>
<fibo> lol<BR>
<Frank> supposedly taking advantage of the tendency for the price to move to the center.<BR>
<fibo> he says be nice Fran:-)<BR>
<fran> :-)<BR>
<fibo> use trend lines but not really channels<BR>
<fibo> just put the Wyckoff with the trend lines<BR>
<fran> she uses Chanel #5 frannk<BR>
<mrj> :)<BR>
<fibo> see if it crosses a trend line the same place as a creek or ice..<BR>
<fibo> lol@fran<BR>
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<fran> convergence<BR>
<fibo> wb eric<BR>
<eric> sorry<BR>
<fibo> fran the fib.s give the same numbers as your gann line<BR>
<fran> great<BR>
<mrj> eric did you get to visit the web site<BR>
<eric> yes, i did mrj<BR>
<mrj> interesting huh<BR>
<eric> yes<BR>
<fibo> mrj i could not access the site you put on the post.<BR>
<fran> I know fibo....but it helps to know the sign posts<BR>
<fibo> exactly!<BR>
<mrj> did you type in "n/t"<BR>
<mrj> wonder why eric got in<BR>
<eric> I tried several times with different dates<BR>
<fibo> it just said it was not available on my server<BR>
<fran> I get that sometimes too fibo<BR>
<fibo> i just know it had to be a good site :-)<BR>
<fran> especially if it has a lot of / etc to the address<BR>
<fibo> me too<BR>
<fibo> thanks anyway..i will try again<BR>
<Frank> I am still putting it togather fibo<BR>
<mrj> not sure what I could do<BR>
<mrj> :)<BR>
<Frank> I watched the trends change on daily action and know what that looks like now both normal and panic<BR>
<Frank> days<BR>
<fran> none fibo?<BR>
<Frank> we use hot mail and yahoo because of the virus<BR>
<fibo> daughter sent me a deal giving all the variations on it.. it can even say it is a fix for it..<BR>
<fibo> so be careful<BR>
<fran> ok<BR>
<fibo> Frank hot mail & yahoo not affected?<BR>
<fran> seemed to really get aol<BR>
<Frank> well what happens they have better security than the local server<BR>
<fibo> oh i see<BR>
<Frank> and it does not go right in your computer like the south park did<BR>
<fran> one thing for sure...if I got it....have to have someone else clean it up...I am computer illitterate<BR>
<fibo> i would too fran<BR>
<fibo> close enough<BR>
<fran> LOL<BR>
<Frank> I took in mine to my computer mechanic and that got rid of south park<BR>
<Frank> yes mr j<BR>
<fibo> amen mrj<BR>
<eric> Buy an antivirus program, update your program weekly, that should be ok<BR>
<Frank> I really am down on life flight<BR>
<fibo> mine came with one but it needs updating.<BR>
<Frank> erick they do not have a antivirus for e mail<BR>
<Frank> eric<BR>
<eric> I thought they do, the program scan all the emails I guess<BR>
<mrj> lol so true<BR>
<mrj> missiles flying all over the place<BR>
<davep> perhaps u know the irony of that truth<BR>
<Frank> without an antivirus south park decimated lot of files<BR>
<fibo> a few summers ago was in grocery store.. had a tornado close and power went out..<BR>
<fran> I have McAfee<BR>
<eric> Norton Antivurs 2000 does scan email attachemnts<BR>
<fibo> we were all herded into the freezer in the back.<BR>
<davep> iinternet was conceived by defense dept to be absolutely secure . . .<BR>
<fibo> me too fran<BR>
<Frank> I have norton and panda<BR>
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<fran> quite a world we live in anymore<BR>
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<fibo> yes<BR>
<fibo> was it ever secure dave?<BR>
<Frank> the dependence on electricity is why all those peaple in maine had to go to the schools in that las major blizzare<BR>
<eric><BR>
<fibo> me too dave  about 2 years<BR>
<davep> but was designed to be secure in that myriad points of "contact" would make lines impossible to disconnect<BR>
<fran> dave...you lost me<BR>
<fibo> hubby says give fran a compass :-)<BR>
<davep> fran, fibo asked if internet had ever been secure<BR>
<Frank> even with gasthe furnace will not light without the fan, another plus for modern living and centreal heating and cooling<BR>
<fran> machines break down and people make errors...we are doomed<BR>
<fibo> lol<BR>
<fibo> lol  nite dave<BR>
<mrj> nite dave<BR>
<davep> see you all tomorrow<BR>
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<fran> nite dave<BR>
<fibo> i sure enjoy  chatting with you traders<BR>
<Frank> me too fibo<BR>
<fibo> i guess i am computer depended too !<BR>
<mrj> me too fibo<BR>
<fran> me too fibo....met a lot of nice people on the computer<BR>
<fibo> nite mrj<BR>
<fibo> thanks for the cheerlead mrj:-)<BR>
<Frank> nite mr j<BR>
<fran> nite mrj<BR>
<mrj> :)<BR>
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<eric> I am leaving too, my son needs to use the computer for his project.<BR>
<fibo> it is nice to have someone who understands about trading..<BR>
<fibo> nite eric<BR>
<fran> see you in other room fibo  and fibo1....:-)<BR>
<Frank> nite eric<BR>
<fran> nite frank and eric<BR>
<fibo> lol o.k. nite fran Frank eric<BR>
<Frank> nite fran<BR>
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